kurt,  i am with you as a ron paul guy.  dont concede defeat.  join up with ron pauls campaign for liberty.  the odds were against him getting elected this time, but this is just the beginning.  we have to all stand together and not buy into this lesser of two evils crap!  there are millions of us around the country who are still trying to grow this campaign for liberty.  as robert said, every vote against these two sends a message that we are tired of their crap and we want people who represent us and not special interests.  voting for either of these two is just acceptance of the status quo.  my vote was a no-confidence vote in either of these two parties.  from your posts here, i can tell that you are an intelligent voter who knows the issues.  people might not always agree with you, but they cant say you arent knowledgeable about the issues.  stay true to your convictions and help sway people to our side.  i have opened many peoples eyes up to major issues that the two party candidates wont even talk about.  just as ron paul opened my eyes up.  ron paul always said this campaign wasnt about him, but about the ideas.  we need to keep reaching out with the ideas.  if we do that, eventually we can have a candidate that can get elected.