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Title Assurance & Indemnity Corp. of NA Cleveland, OH - MIchael Lanin/KY
2/3/2009 1:01:36 PM (2557 views)

The Law Firm of Crystal Lowery - Edward Huguenin/SC
2/1/2009 8:20:52 AM (3705 views)
Re: The Law Firm of Crystal Lowery - Wendi See/SC
2/1/2009 6:37:04 PM (3958 views)
Re: The Law Firm of Crystal Lowery - Janis Talbot/SC
2/2/2009 9:11:46 AM (4223 views)
Re: The Law Firm of Crystal Lowery - Wendi See/SC
2/2/2009 8:34:15 PM (4021 views)
Re: The Law Firm of Crystal Lowery - Edward Huguenin/SC
2/3/2009 7:10:57 AM (3945 views)

What is considered slow pay? - no name/MI
1/30/2009 12:50:38 PM (3305 views)
Re: What is considered slow pay? - Jessica Talley/NJ
1/30/2009 12:59:33 PM (4011 views)
Re: What is considered slow pay? - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/30/2009 1:33:34 PM (4275 views)

Probate Question - Helene /GA
1/29/2009 11:50:27 PM (3176 views)
Re: Probate Question - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/30/2009 6:52:39 AM (4176 views)
Maybe a shifting executory interest... - Robert Franco/OH
1/30/2009 9:28:41 AM (4271 views)

Ah... an excellent question that seemed so irrelevant when we studied this stuff in Property class a few years ago.  We just don't see this kind of odd-ball stuff very often.

I think that this might be a shifting executory interest, rather than a sprining executory interest.  But, I guess that would depend on how the conveyance is worded (it doesn't seem very clear to me).  A springing executory interest cuts short the grantor's interest, if a third party interest gets cut short, it is a shifting executory interest.  In this case, I get the impression that the title was conveyed to "M, but when J reaches the age of 25, then to J."  In that case, I believe that M has a fee simple interest subject to a condition subsequent - J attaining the age of 25 - and J. has a shifting executory interest, since if the condition is met it cuts short the interst of a third party, M. 

I believe that if J dies before reaching the age of 25, the executory interest terminates and M would have good title with no condition subsequent.  I think from an underwriting perspective, I would prefer to see an affidavit with an attached death certificate for J.  I don't think there would be a problem if there was something in the chain of title that clearly showed J's death before reaching the age of 25.

But, like Kevin said... this is pretty complicated and the best you can do is report your findings and let your client decide how to handle it.  It will depend on exactly how the conveyance was termed in the will.

What do you think, Kevin?  Am I understanding this well enough to pass the bar exam in July?

And, thank you so much Helene for posting such a wonderful question!  These are the kinds of topics I think we should be dicussing much more often on the forums.  We can all learn a lot from these types of exchanges.

Best,
Robert A. Franco
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Re: Maybe a shifting executory interest... - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/30/2009 10:01:35 AM (3987 views)
Re: Maybe a shifting executory interest... - Robert Franco/OH
1/30/2009 10:25:15 AM (3828 views)
Re: Maybe a shifting executory interest... - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/30/2009 10:49:36 AM (3891 views)
Re: Maybe a shifting executory interest... - Helene /GA
1/30/2009 10:38:14 PM (3948 views)
Re: Maybe a shifting executory interest... - Douglas Gallant/OH
1/31/2009 8:27:20 AM (3971 views)

Preview of Coming Attractions? - Scott Perry/PA
1/29/2009 10:53:59 PM (4934 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/29/2009 11:22:02 PM (4264 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - Scott Perry/PA
1/29/2009 11:58:37 PM (4013 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - Jessica Talley/NJ
1/30/2009 8:07:42 AM (4239 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/30/2009 8:15:04 AM (4334 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/30/2009 8:16:02 AM (4156 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - Alix Ott/MI
2/2/2009 2:10:27 PM (3948 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/30/2009 8:46:02 AM (4141 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - Jessica Talley/NJ
1/30/2009 12:55:40 PM (5817 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - michael quinn/NY
2/1/2009 1:09:50 AM (3970 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/1/2009 6:01:27 AM (4029 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - WAYNE QUICK/NC
2/2/2009 6:16:26 PM (3992 views)




The Bankruptcy Club - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/29/2009 2:56:14 PM (3534 views)
Re: The Bankruptcy Club - Kim Cowles/WI
1/29/2009 2:59:08 PM (4191 views)
Re: The Bankruptcy Club - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/29/2009 3:48:35 PM (3971 views)
Re: The Bankruptcy Club - Jessica Talley/NJ
1/29/2009 6:58:44 PM (3961 views)
Re: The Bankruptcy Club - Barbara Kelley/PA
2/2/2009 8:50:30 AM (3902 views)
Re: The Bankruptcy Club - Robert Franco/OH
2/2/2009 9:33:45 AM (4063 views)
Re: The Bankruptcy Club - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
2/3/2009 10:43:16 PM (4008 views)
Re: The Bankruptcy Club - Anthony Joseph/TX
2/4/2009 8:22:07 AM (4071 views)
Re: The Bankruptcy Club - george Hubka/MI
2/25/2009 6:04:15 AM (3724 views)

MONEY OWED - quinn cioffi/PA
1/28/2009 2:38:15 PM (3557 views)
Re: MONEY OWED - Laurie E/MD
1/28/2009 6:04:33 PM (3853 views)
Re: MONEY OWED - george Hubka/MI
2/24/2009 6:51:47 PM (3644 views)

New Real Estate Numbers Are Out - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/28/2009 2:25:36 PM (4353 views)

Snow Day! - Robert Franco/OH
1/28/2009 12:39:37 PM (3154 views)
Re: Snow Day! - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
1/28/2009 12:45:16 PM (4014 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Nils Nelson/ME
1/28/2009 4:37:10 PM (4023 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Joanie Hahr/VT
1/28/2009 5:05:58 PM (3789 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Glenda Hodge/TN
1/28/2009 11:14:51 PM (3844 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Sheila Sten/PA
1/29/2009 2:39:41 PM (3716 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Clanci Nelson/OH
1/29/2009 3:36:29 PM (3870 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Scott Perry/PA
1/29/2009 10:41:24 PM (3905 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Clanci Nelson/OH
1/30/2009 3:55:14 PM (4118 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Sheila Sten/PA
1/31/2009 10:31:02 AM (3955 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Sheila Sten/PA
1/31/2009 10:30:35 AM (3881 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/31/2009 12:36:02 PM (3820 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Scott Perry/PA
1/31/2009 3:42:38 PM (3882 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Scott Perry/PA
1/31/2009 3:44:38 PM (3822 views)

NALTEA - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/28/2009 12:13:09 PM (3010 views)
Re: NALTEA - Dave Pelligrinelli/GA
1/28/2009 1:05:51 PM (3904 views)
Re: NALTEA - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/28/2009 9:54:56 PM (3840 views)

Buckeye Land Abstract - Sybil East/GA
1/27/2009 12:54:18 PM (3355 views)

Another NON-Payer - Kurt deVries/FL
1/27/2009 12:19:30 PM (2994 views)

Title Insurance - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/27/2009 10:54:55 AM (3270 views)
Re: Title Insurance - Robert Franco/OH
1/27/2009 11:37:48 AM (4136 views)
Re: Title Insurance - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/27/2009 11:49:53 AM (3896 views)
Re: Title Insurance - Pete Kisan/OH
2/4/2009 8:45:38 AM (4059 views)

Infotrack Information Services - Edward Huguenin/SC
1/27/2009 7:12:47 AM (3406 views)
Re: Infotrack Information Services - Sandra Harold/KS
2/11/2009 11:30:35 AM (4017 views)
Re: Infotrack Information Services - Greg Paszkiewicz/NJ
2/23/2009 12:49:29 PM (4048 views)
Re: Infotrack Information Services - Frank NAVARRO/IL
4/8/2009 12:46:12 PM (3904 views)

gdocs / Boondocs BK info - george Hubka/MI
1/23/2009 10:49:37 PM (3405 views)
Re: gdocs / Boondocs BK info - Steve /NY
2/3/2009 10:29:32 AM (3990 views)
Re: gdocs / Boondocs BK info - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/3/2009 11:07:18 AM (3920 views)
Re: gdocs / Boondocs BK info - Patrick/NY
2/3/2009 11:16:12 AM (3817 views)
Re: gdocs / Boondocs BK info - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/3/2009 11:44:57 AM (4053 views)
Re: gdocs / Boondocs BK info - Patrick/NY
2/3/2009 12:10:34 PM (3818 views)
Re: gdocs / Boondocs BK info - Marian Littleton/VA
3/4/2009 11:35:26 AM (3794 views)


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