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ARROW ABSTRACT OF NEW YORK, INC. - Scott Perry/PA
2/5/2009 11:57:53 AM (3591 views)
Re: ARROW ABSTRACT OF NEW YORK, INC. - Cindy Thomas/NY
2/6/2009 2:52:47 PM (4232 views)
Re: ARROW ABSTRACT OF NEW YORK, INC. - Constance Foye/VA
2/11/2009 7:03:22 PM (3952 views)
Re: ARROW ABSTRACT OF NEW YORK, INC. - Greg Paszkiewicz/NJ
2/23/2009 12:47:32 PM (3841 views)
Re: ARROW ABSTRACT OF NEW YORK, INC. - george Hubka/MI
2/25/2009 5:52:35 PM (3850 views)
Re: ARROW ABSTRACT OF NEW YORK, INC. - Smitty Strickland/SC
10/2/2012 6:51:09 PM (3303 views)

nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - Dan Zook/NY
2/5/2009 8:59:26 AM (3767 views)
Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
2/5/2009 10:47:19 AM (7247 views)
Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - Jessica Talley/NJ
2/5/2009 2:22:14 PM (4205 views)
Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - Dan Zook/NY
2/5/2009 3:22:23 PM (4293 views)
Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - Dan Zook/NY
2/9/2009 2:44:32 PM (4301 views)
Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - Robert Franco/OH
2/9/2009 2:52:37 PM (4217 views)
Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - Dan Zook/NY
2/9/2009 3:15:32 PM (4133 views)
Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - cindy thomas/NY
2/9/2009 5:02:31 PM (6702 views)
Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - nXt Generation Title Services, LLC/FL
2/10/2009 10:52:31 AM (4195 views)
Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - Dan Zook/NY
2/10/2009 12:58:43 PM (4278 views)
Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - Clanci Nelson/OH
2/12/2009 2:42:56 PM (4167 views)
Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - Clanci Nelson/OH
2/12/2009 2:20:01 PM (4025 views)

mortgage fraud - Sheila Sten/PA
2/4/2009 3:48:02 PM (3573 views)
Re: mortgage fraud - Robert Franco/OH
2/4/2009 3:51:15 PM (4162 views)
Re: mortgage fraud - Sheila Sten/PA
2/4/2009 3:56:52 PM (4238 views)
Re: mortgage fraud - J Nisonger/CA
2/7/2009 4:00:55 PM (4081 views)
Re: mortgage fraud - Sheila Sten/PA
2/8/2009 4:18:20 PM (3998 views)

Off the beaten path - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
2/3/2009 10:36:52 PM (3469 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
2/3/2009 11:31:49 PM (4258 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Patrick Scott/IL
2/4/2009 12:01:44 AM (4143 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Scott Perry/PA
2/4/2009 12:55:17 AM (4248 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Robert Franco/OH
2/4/2009 10:42:36 AM (4131 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/4/2009 10:52:16 AM (4175 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Scott Perry/PA
2/4/2009 11:18:23 AM (4028 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Clanci Nelson/OH
2/5/2009 4:48:33 PM (4107 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Scott Perry/PA
2/5/2009 7:43:44 PM (6716 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Robert Franco/OH
2/6/2009 10:09:45 AM (3876 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Scott Perry/PA
2/6/2009 11:53:54 AM (3949 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Robert Franco/OH
2/6/2009 12:44:49 PM (3848 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Scott Perry/PA
2/6/2009 1:51:09 PM (3842 views)
Still makes no sense.... - Robert Franco/OH
2/9/2009 1:09:11 PM (4063 views)
Re: Still makes no sense.... - Scott Perry/PA
2/10/2009 3:26:30 AM (3838 views)
Re: Still makes no sense.... - Robert Franco/OH
2/10/2009 9:59:16 AM (3884 views)
Re: Still makes no sense.... - Debbie Thibodeaux/LA
2/11/2009 1:07:54 PM (3828 views)
Re: Still makes no sense.... - Robert Franco/OH
2/11/2009 1:43:23 PM (3807 views)
Re: Still makes no sense.... - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/11/2009 4:48:23 PM (3814 views)
Re: Still makes no sense.... - Robert Franco/OH
2/12/2009 12:46:38 AM (3699 views)
Re: Still makes no sense.... - Douglas Gallant/OH
2/11/2009 5:06:23 PM (3802 views)
As I Was Saying... - Scott Perry/PA
2/16/2009 12:14:21 AM (3806 views)
Re: As I Was Saying... - Robert Franco/OH
2/16/2009 11:56:29 AM (3894 views)
Re: Commercial Activity Tax... - Robert Franco/OH
2/16/2009 3:04:27 PM (6484 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Clanci Nelson/OH
2/6/2009 4:45:51 PM (3932 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/6/2009 6:17:30 AM (3899 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Robert Franco/OH
2/6/2009 10:03:24 AM (3897 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/4/2009 10:47:54 AM (4044 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Robert Franco/OH
2/4/2009 11:06:18 AM (3841 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/4/2009 11:10:33 AM (3808 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Scott Perry/PA
2/4/2009 11:31:26 AM (3890 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/4/2009 11:59:28 AM (3913 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Barbara Bennett/IN
2/4/2009 3:28:50 PM (3721 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/4/2009 11:21:39 AM (3817 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Clanci Nelson/OH
2/5/2009 4:25:01 PM (4033 views)

reporting non-paying title companies to the underwriters - Michael Lanin/KY
2/3/2009 1:20:18 PM (3359 views)
Re: reporting non-paying title companies to the underwriters - Robert Franco/OH
2/3/2009 2:25:20 PM (4270 views)
Re: reporting non-paying title companies to the underwriters - Michelle/IL
2/4/2009 1:18:59 PM (3868 views)
Re: reporting non-paying title companies to the underwriters - J Nisonger/CA
2/5/2009 10:00:22 PM (3998 views)
Re: reporting non-paying title companies to the underwriters - Michael Lanin/KY
2/6/2009 12:52:40 PM (3918 views)
Re: reporting non-paying title companies to the underwriters - J Nisonger/CA
2/7/2009 3:56:45 PM (3805 views)
Re: reporting non-paying title companies to the underwriters - Clanci Nelson/OH
2/12/2009 2:18:17 PM (3736 views)
Re: reporting non-paying title companies to the underwriters - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
2/17/2009 9:17:45 AM (3727 views)




Title Assurance & Indemnity Corp. of NA Cleveland, OH - MIchael Lanin/KY
2/3/2009 1:01:36 PM (2597 views)

The Law Firm of Crystal Lowery - Edward Huguenin/SC
2/1/2009 8:20:52 AM (3736 views)
Re: The Law Firm of Crystal Lowery - Wendi See/SC
2/1/2009 6:37:04 PM (4032 views)
Re: The Law Firm of Crystal Lowery - Janis Talbot/SC
2/2/2009 9:11:46 AM (4295 views)
Re: The Law Firm of Crystal Lowery - Wendi See/SC
2/2/2009 8:34:15 PM (4104 views)
Re: The Law Firm of Crystal Lowery - Edward Huguenin/SC
2/3/2009 7:10:57 AM (4023 views)

What is considered slow pay? - no name/MI
1/30/2009 12:50:38 PM (3332 views)
Re: What is considered slow pay? - Jessica Talley/NJ
1/30/2009 12:59:33 PM (4082 views)
Re: What is considered slow pay? - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/30/2009 1:33:34 PM (4352 views)

Probate Question - Helene /GA
1/29/2009 11:50:27 PM (3195 views)
Re: Probate Question - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/30/2009 6:52:39 AM (4249 views)

Your question is State specific, and you would need to consult the probate laws of the State in which the will was filed. The following may not apply in all states.

The gift to M and then over to J might be termed a springing executory interest in some states. This would consist of the gift to M, but she would be stripped of title if the testator had placed a condition on the conveyance the occurrence of which would vest title in J. However, that may be open to question if the will were poorly drafted, and failed to clearly state the wishes of the testator. Normally the testator would set up either a testamentary trust or an inter vivos trust with M acting as trustee for J until he reached age of 25.

I ran into a similar situation during a title search several years ago in Connecticut. There was some question about the validity of the deed. I consulted the local probate judge who indicated that in his opinion the title to the property was conveyed by the will rather than the deed. If the deed were insufficient it was a matter of recording a corrective deed. However, that may be difficult if many years had passed, and may require signatures of heirs to the property if the original grantor had died. His opinion was based on his interpretation of Connecticut law. 

I did a title search on a condominium several years ago. A mistake had been made in the legal description 10 or 15 years earlier. Since that time the property had been sold several times with the wrong unit number listed in the legal description. It was necessary to go back to the grantor of the first erroneous deed, and have her execute and record a corrective deed to the current buyer. Fortunately she was still alive and residing in Connecticut.

I think some inquiry should be made as to the significance of the affidavit of possession. Did M possibly acquire a title interest through adverse possession?

I recall in law school one of my real estate professors talking about Chicago's oldest known easement. It dated back to the time Chicago was a frontier town. One of the local farmers used to walk his cattle down to water them in the river that now runs through down town Chicago. He developed an easement on the property which apparently exists to the present. No one ever bothered to get a deed or release of the easement. It was my professor's opinion that it would require the signatures of all the living heirs of the farmer.

If there was some perceived invalidity with the will, the probate court probably would not have accepted it, and the estate would have been probated as an intestate succession. It would probably also have been subject to challenge by putative heirs. In which case the court would have ruled on the issue.

Since M was the residuary legatee, if the gift to J failed for some reason in Connecticut  the property would fall into the residue of the estate , and pass to M under the residuary clause of the will.

The best you can do in this situation is to report your findings in your abstract, and leave the determination of title to your client and the title insurer

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Maybe a shifting executory interest... - Robert Franco/OH
1/30/2009 9:28:41 AM (4332 views)
Re: Maybe a shifting executory interest... - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/30/2009 10:01:35 AM (4050 views)
Re: Maybe a shifting executory interest... - Robert Franco/OH
1/30/2009 10:25:15 AM (3897 views)
Re: Maybe a shifting executory interest... - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/30/2009 10:49:36 AM (3962 views)
Re: Maybe a shifting executory interest... - Helene /GA
1/30/2009 10:38:14 PM (4005 views)
Re: Maybe a shifting executory interest... - Douglas Gallant/OH
1/31/2009 8:27:20 AM (4037 views)

Preview of Coming Attractions? - Scott Perry/PA
1/29/2009 10:53:59 PM (5006 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/29/2009 11:22:02 PM (4375 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - Scott Perry/PA
1/29/2009 11:58:37 PM (4076 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - Jessica Talley/NJ
1/30/2009 8:07:42 AM (4402 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/30/2009 8:15:04 AM (4418 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/30/2009 8:16:02 AM (4283 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - Alix Ott/MI
2/2/2009 2:10:27 PM (4023 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/30/2009 8:46:02 AM (4274 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - Jessica Talley/NJ
1/30/2009 12:55:40 PM (5891 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - michael quinn/NY
2/1/2009 1:09:50 AM (4036 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/1/2009 6:01:27 AM (4167 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - WAYNE QUICK/NC
2/2/2009 6:16:26 PM (4056 views)

The Bankruptcy Club - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/29/2009 2:56:14 PM (3561 views)
Re: The Bankruptcy Club - Kim Cowles/WI
1/29/2009 2:59:08 PM (4253 views)
Re: The Bankruptcy Club - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/29/2009 3:48:35 PM (4027 views)
Re: The Bankruptcy Club - Jessica Talley/NJ
1/29/2009 6:58:44 PM (4030 views)
Re: The Bankruptcy Club - Barbara Kelley/PA
2/2/2009 8:50:30 AM (3963 views)
Re: The Bankruptcy Club - Robert Franco/OH
2/2/2009 9:33:45 AM (4122 views)
Re: The Bankruptcy Club - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
2/3/2009 10:43:16 PM (4068 views)
Re: The Bankruptcy Club - Anthony Joseph/TX
2/4/2009 8:22:07 AM (4130 views)
Re: The Bankruptcy Club - george Hubka/MI
2/25/2009 6:04:15 AM (3797 views)

MONEY OWED - quinn cioffi/PA
1/28/2009 2:38:15 PM (3581 views)
Re: MONEY OWED - Laurie E/MD
1/28/2009 6:04:33 PM (3923 views)
Re: MONEY OWED - george Hubka/MI
2/24/2009 6:51:47 PM (3703 views)

New Real Estate Numbers Are Out - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/28/2009 2:25:36 PM (4386 views)

Snow Day! - Robert Franco/OH
1/28/2009 12:39:37 PM (3173 views)
Re: Snow Day! - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
1/28/2009 12:45:16 PM (4079 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Nils Nelson/ME
1/28/2009 4:37:10 PM (4096 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Joanie Hahr/VT
1/28/2009 5:05:58 PM (3855 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Glenda Hodge/TN
1/28/2009 11:14:51 PM (3911 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Sheila Sten/PA
1/29/2009 2:39:41 PM (3779 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Clanci Nelson/OH
1/29/2009 3:36:29 PM (3936 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Scott Perry/PA
1/29/2009 10:41:24 PM (3990 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Clanci Nelson/OH
1/30/2009 3:55:14 PM (4185 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Sheila Sten/PA
1/31/2009 10:31:02 AM (4015 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Sheila Sten/PA
1/31/2009 10:30:35 AM (3946 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/31/2009 12:36:02 PM (3883 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Scott Perry/PA
1/31/2009 3:42:38 PM (3936 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Scott Perry/PA
1/31/2009 3:44:38 PM (3891 views)

NALTEA - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/28/2009 12:13:09 PM (3018 views)
Re: NALTEA - Dave Pelligrinelli/GA
1/28/2009 1:05:51 PM (3966 views)
Re: NALTEA - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/28/2009 9:54:56 PM (3900 views)


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