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mortgage fraud - Sheila Sten/PA
2/4/2009 3:48:02 PM (3433 views)
Re: mortgage fraud - Robert Franco/OH
2/4/2009 3:51:15 PM (3728 views)
Re: mortgage fraud - Sheila Sten/PA
2/4/2009 3:56:52 PM (3751 views)
Re: mortgage fraud - J Nisonger/CA
2/7/2009 4:00:55 PM (3621 views)
Re: mortgage fraud - Sheila Sten/PA
2/8/2009 4:18:20 PM (3543 views)

Off the beaten path - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
2/3/2009 10:36:52 PM (3332 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
2/3/2009 11:31:49 PM (3794 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Patrick Scott/IL
2/4/2009 12:01:44 AM (3709 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Scott Perry/PA
2/4/2009 12:55:17 AM (3809 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Robert Franco/OH
2/4/2009 10:42:36 AM (3695 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/4/2009 10:52:16 AM (3750 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Scott Perry/PA
2/4/2009 11:18:23 AM (3606 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Clanci Nelson/OH
2/5/2009 4:48:33 PM (3660 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Scott Perry/PA
2/5/2009 7:43:44 PM (6225 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Robert Franco/OH
2/6/2009 10:09:45 AM (3418 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Scott Perry/PA
2/6/2009 11:53:54 AM (3505 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Robert Franco/OH
2/6/2009 12:44:49 PM (3401 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Scott Perry/PA
2/6/2009 1:51:09 PM (3414 views)

Well, you do raise some good points, all of which are addressed in the plan.  I won't go into too much detail here, but a couple of things you cited jumped out at me.  For example:

There would certainly have to be exceptions for major purchases like homes - can you imagine what a 30% tax would do the housing market?

Only new items would be subject to the tax.  Used or pre-owned items, like automobiles or homes, for example, would be exempt.  Also, prices on new items would be reduced by about 25% due to the elimination of the "hidden taxes" and compliance costs which are now built into the price of most goods and services.

Your crime analogy is flawed.... we would actually have more crime because those drug dealers you mention would diversify into stolen goods to be sold on the black market - with no taxes! 

I didn't say anything about reducing crime.  What you say is true, but the drug dealer or the bootlegger still wants to "live large" and have his big homes, his fancy new cars and his "bling".  He'd still be paying taxes on all that stuff.

What about all of the people who have invested in Roth IRAs? They have already paid the tax on their retirement savings - they would be taxed AGAIN when they draw it out and spend it.  How is that for rewarding those that have planned for their retirement?  There is a similar problem with those who have invested in tax free muni-bonds and the like.

Under the current system, savings on such investments are already taxed a second time when spent because of all the "hidden taxes" and compliance costs cited above.  So what's the difference?

The rich could still escape much of their tax burden by saving more - they are the only group that currently saves anything as it is.  And, if people save more, to cut their tax burden, the economy suffers.

I refer you to my reply to your objection about the "underground economy", supra.  Rich people still like their toys.  What good is being wealthy if you can't flaunt your wealth?  It's human nature.  Besides, like I stated above, things like that would cost less under the FairTax.

How would the government function during economic recessions when unemployment rises and people spend less?  The Fair Tax would be much more volatile and it would make creating a balanced budget even more difficult.

Still no different than under the current system, in which revenue to the federal Treasury declines during recessions.  The diifference is that that the FairTax taxes a broader and more stable base, and thus would actually mitigate the effects of a recession on lower income earners.

 If we tried it, I think we would end up trying to phase it in along side the income tax and we would end up having both.  We would never really be able to escape the income tax completely and we would just end up with two complicated tax systems.

That's true, and the FairTax bill would require the elimination of the current system, although the 16th Amendment would have to be repealed to eliminate the possiblilty of a return to taxation of income.

Regards,
Scott Perry

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Still makes no sense.... - Robert Franco/OH
2/9/2009 1:09:11 PM (3670 views)
Re: Still makes no sense.... - Scott Perry/PA
2/10/2009 3:26:30 AM (3399 views)
Re: Still makes no sense.... - Robert Franco/OH
2/10/2009 9:59:16 AM (3434 views)
Re: Still makes no sense.... - Debbie Thibodeaux/LA
2/11/2009 1:07:54 PM (3387 views)
Re: Still makes no sense.... - Robert Franco/OH
2/11/2009 1:43:23 PM (3364 views)
Re: Still makes no sense.... - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/11/2009 4:48:23 PM (3382 views)
Re: Still makes no sense.... - Robert Franco/OH
2/12/2009 12:46:38 AM (3308 views)
Re: Still makes no sense.... - Douglas Gallant/OH
2/11/2009 5:06:23 PM (3345 views)
As I Was Saying... - Scott Perry/PA
2/16/2009 12:14:21 AM (3358 views)
Re: As I Was Saying... - Robert Franco/OH
2/16/2009 11:56:29 AM (3456 views)
Re: Commercial Activity Tax... - Robert Franco/OH
2/16/2009 3:04:27 PM (6007 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Clanci Nelson/OH
2/6/2009 4:45:51 PM (3487 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/6/2009 6:17:30 AM (3448 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Robert Franco/OH
2/6/2009 10:03:24 AM (3461 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/4/2009 10:47:54 AM (3615 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Robert Franco/OH
2/4/2009 11:06:18 AM (3417 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/4/2009 11:10:33 AM (3377 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Scott Perry/PA
2/4/2009 11:31:26 AM (3467 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/4/2009 11:59:28 AM (3491 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Barbara Bennett/IN
2/4/2009 3:28:50 PM (3279 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/4/2009 11:21:39 AM (3420 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Clanci Nelson/OH
2/5/2009 4:25:01 PM (3541 views)

reporting non-paying title companies to the underwriters - Michael Lanin/KY
2/3/2009 1:20:18 PM (3221 views)
Re: reporting non-paying title companies to the underwriters - Robert Franco/OH
2/3/2009 2:25:20 PM (3888 views)
Re: reporting non-paying title companies to the underwriters - Michelle/IL
2/4/2009 1:18:59 PM (3457 views)
Re: reporting non-paying title companies to the underwriters - J Nisonger/CA
2/5/2009 10:00:22 PM (3638 views)
Re: reporting non-paying title companies to the underwriters - Michael Lanin/KY
2/6/2009 12:52:40 PM (3532 views)
Re: reporting non-paying title companies to the underwriters - J Nisonger/CA
2/7/2009 3:56:45 PM (3430 views)
Re: reporting non-paying title companies to the underwriters - Clanci Nelson/OH
2/12/2009 2:18:17 PM (3354 views)
Re: reporting non-paying title companies to the underwriters - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
2/17/2009 9:17:45 AM (3346 views)

Title Assurance & Indemnity Corp. of NA Cleveland, OH - MIchael Lanin/KY
2/3/2009 1:01:36 PM (2475 views)

The Law Firm of Crystal Lowery - Edward Huguenin/SC
2/1/2009 8:20:52 AM (3636 views)
Re: The Law Firm of Crystal Lowery - Wendi See/SC
2/1/2009 6:37:04 PM (3662 views)
Re: The Law Firm of Crystal Lowery - Janis Talbot/SC
2/2/2009 9:11:46 AM (3910 views)
Re: The Law Firm of Crystal Lowery - Wendi See/SC
2/2/2009 8:34:15 PM (3732 views)
Re: The Law Firm of Crystal Lowery - Edward Huguenin/SC
2/3/2009 7:10:57 AM (3654 views)




What is considered slow pay? - no name/MI
1/30/2009 12:50:38 PM (3226 views)
Re: What is considered slow pay? - Jessica Talley/NJ
1/30/2009 12:59:33 PM (3721 views)
Re: What is considered slow pay? - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/30/2009 1:33:34 PM (3929 views)

Probate Question - Helene /GA
1/29/2009 11:50:27 PM (3117 views)
Re: Probate Question - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/30/2009 6:52:39 AM (3894 views)
Maybe a shifting executory interest... - Robert Franco/OH
1/30/2009 9:28:41 AM (3968 views)
Re: Maybe a shifting executory interest... - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/30/2009 10:01:35 AM (3698 views)
Re: Maybe a shifting executory interest... - Robert Franco/OH
1/30/2009 10:25:15 AM (3554 views)
Re: Maybe a shifting executory interest... - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/30/2009 10:49:36 AM (3581 views)
Re: Maybe a shifting executory interest... - Helene /GA
1/30/2009 10:38:14 PM (3654 views)
Re: Maybe a shifting executory interest... - Douglas Gallant/OH
1/31/2009 8:27:20 AM (3662 views)

Preview of Coming Attractions? - Scott Perry/PA
1/29/2009 10:53:59 PM (4846 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/29/2009 11:22:02 PM (3938 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - Scott Perry/PA
1/29/2009 11:58:37 PM (3708 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - Jessica Talley/NJ
1/30/2009 8:07:42 AM (3952 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/30/2009 8:15:04 AM (3959 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/30/2009 8:16:02 AM (3875 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - Alix Ott/MI
2/2/2009 2:10:27 PM (3667 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/30/2009 8:46:02 AM (3841 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - Jessica Talley/NJ
1/30/2009 12:55:40 PM (3636 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - michael quinn/NY
2/1/2009 1:09:50 AM (3645 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/1/2009 6:01:27 AM (3757 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - WAYNE QUICK/NC
2/2/2009 6:16:26 PM (3683 views)

The Bankruptcy Club - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/29/2009 2:56:14 PM (3426 views)
Re: The Bankruptcy Club - Kim Cowles/WI
1/29/2009 2:59:08 PM (3877 views)
Re: The Bankruptcy Club - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/29/2009 3:48:35 PM (3723 views)
Re: The Bankruptcy Club - Jessica Talley/NJ
1/29/2009 6:58:44 PM (3697 views)
Re: The Bankruptcy Club - Barbara Kelley/PA
2/2/2009 8:50:30 AM (3605 views)
Re: The Bankruptcy Club - Robert Franco/OH
2/2/2009 9:33:45 AM (3780 views)
Re: The Bankruptcy Club - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
2/3/2009 10:43:16 PM (3743 views)
Re: The Bankruptcy Club - Anthony Joseph/TX
2/4/2009 8:22:07 AM (3802 views)
Re: The Bankruptcy Club - george Hubka/MI
2/25/2009 6:04:15 AM (3434 views)

MONEY OWED - quinn cioffi/PA
1/28/2009 2:38:15 PM (3449 views)
Re: MONEY OWED - Laurie E/MD
1/28/2009 6:04:33 PM (3622 views)
Re: MONEY OWED - george Hubka/MI
2/24/2009 6:51:47 PM (3379 views)

New Real Estate Numbers Are Out - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/28/2009 2:25:36 PM (4206 views)

Snow Day! - Robert Franco/OH
1/28/2009 12:39:37 PM (3100 views)
Re: Snow Day! - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
1/28/2009 12:45:16 PM (3718 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Nils Nelson/ME
1/28/2009 4:37:10 PM (3729 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Joanie Hahr/VT
1/28/2009 5:05:58 PM (3516 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Glenda Hodge/TN
1/28/2009 11:14:51 PM (3521 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Sheila Sten/PA
1/29/2009 2:39:41 PM (3425 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Clanci Nelson/OH
1/29/2009 3:36:29 PM (3570 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Scott Perry/PA
1/29/2009 10:41:24 PM (3579 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Clanci Nelson/OH
1/30/2009 3:55:14 PM (3852 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Sheila Sten/PA
1/31/2009 10:31:02 AM (3673 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Sheila Sten/PA
1/31/2009 10:30:35 AM (3620 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/31/2009 12:36:02 PM (3537 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Scott Perry/PA
1/31/2009 3:42:38 PM (3591 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Scott Perry/PA
1/31/2009 3:44:38 PM (3544 views)

NALTEA - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/28/2009 12:13:09 PM (2947 views)
Re: NALTEA - Dave Pelligrinelli/GA
1/28/2009 1:05:51 PM (3684 views)
Re: NALTEA - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/28/2009 9:54:56 PM (3570 views)

Buckeye Land Abstract - Sybil East/GA
1/27/2009 12:54:18 PM (3265 views)

Another NON-Payer - Kurt deVries/FL
1/27/2009 12:19:30 PM (2898 views)


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