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American Title, inc. - Erin Carraway/NY
2/5/2009 2:39:06 PM (3660 views)
Re: American Title, inc. - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
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Re: American Title, inc. - Erin Carraway/NY
2/5/2009 3:11:46 PM (4143 views)
Re: American Title, inc. - Carl Ashford/CO
2/5/2009 4:27:55 PM (4265 views)
Re: American Title, inc. - Sandra Morton/KS
2/7/2009 4:03:28 PM (4072 views)
Re: American Title, inc. - Jessica Talley/NJ
2/5/2009 5:36:14 PM (4255 views)
Re: American Title, inc. - Alix Ott/MI
2/6/2009 9:10:05 AM (4005 views)
Re: American Title, inc. - Jessica Talley/NJ
2/6/2009 1:54:04 PM (4054 views)
Re: American Title, inc. - Wendi See/SC
2/8/2009 3:32:57 PM (4016 views)
Re: American Title, inc. - george Hubka/MI
2/25/2009 6:00:48 AM (3685 views)
Re: American Title, inc. - Michael Vernon/AZ
2/9/2009 12:33:38 PM (4028 views)
Re: American Title, inc. - American Title/NE
2/10/2009 4:37:20 PM (7284 views)

ARROW ABSTRACT OF NEW YORK, INC. - Scott Perry/PA
2/5/2009 11:57:53 AM (3505 views)
Re: ARROW ABSTRACT OF NEW YORK, INC. - Cindy Thomas/NY
2/6/2009 2:52:47 PM (4022 views)
Re: ARROW ABSTRACT OF NEW YORK, INC. - Constance Foye/VA
2/11/2009 7:03:22 PM (3729 views)
Re: ARROW ABSTRACT OF NEW YORK, INC. - Greg Paszkiewicz/NJ
2/23/2009 12:47:32 PM (3630 views)
Re: ARROW ABSTRACT OF NEW YORK, INC. - george Hubka/MI
2/25/2009 5:52:35 PM (3615 views)
Re: ARROW ABSTRACT OF NEW YORK, INC. - Smitty Strickland/SC
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nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - Dan Zook/NY
2/5/2009 8:59:26 AM (3703 views)
Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
2/5/2009 10:47:19 AM (6981 views)
Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - Jessica Talley/NJ
2/5/2009 2:22:14 PM (3971 views)
Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - Dan Zook/NY
2/5/2009 3:22:23 PM (4063 views)
Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - Dan Zook/NY
2/9/2009 2:44:32 PM (4069 views)
Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - Robert Franco/OH
2/9/2009 2:52:37 PM (3993 views)
Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - Dan Zook/NY
2/9/2009 3:15:32 PM (3919 views)
Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - cindy thomas/NY
2/9/2009 5:02:31 PM (6451 views)
Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - nXt Generation Title Services, LLC/FL
2/10/2009 10:52:31 AM (3974 views)
Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - Dan Zook/NY
2/10/2009 12:58:43 PM (4055 views)
Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - Clanci Nelson/OH
2/12/2009 2:42:56 PM (3891 views)
Re: nXt Generation Title Services, LLC - Clanci Nelson/OH
2/12/2009 2:20:01 PM (3785 views)

mortgage fraud - Sheila Sten/PA
2/4/2009 3:48:02 PM (3483 views)
Re: mortgage fraud - Robert Franco/OH
2/4/2009 3:51:15 PM (3926 views)
Re: mortgage fraud - Sheila Sten/PA
2/4/2009 3:56:52 PM (3948 views)
Re: mortgage fraud - J Nisonger/CA
2/7/2009 4:00:55 PM (3813 views)
Re: mortgage fraud - Sheila Sten/PA
2/8/2009 4:18:20 PM (3752 views)

Off the beaten path - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
2/3/2009 10:36:52 PM (3391 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
2/3/2009 11:31:49 PM (3977 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Patrick Scott/IL
2/4/2009 12:01:44 AM (3890 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Scott Perry/PA
2/4/2009 12:55:17 AM (3998 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Robert Franco/OH
2/4/2009 10:42:36 AM (3862 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/4/2009 10:52:16 AM (3918 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Scott Perry/PA
2/4/2009 11:18:23 AM (3777 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Clanci Nelson/OH
2/5/2009 4:48:33 PM (3844 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Scott Perry/PA
2/5/2009 7:43:44 PM (6412 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Robert Franco/OH
2/6/2009 10:09:45 AM (3619 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Scott Perry/PA
2/6/2009 11:53:54 AM (3692 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Robert Franco/OH
2/6/2009 12:44:49 PM (3591 views)

I have looked into it and I don't think it is viable... there are too many problems.

  1. the middle class mostly spends more than they make.  We have a negative savings rate in this country.  At 30%, they would all lose out on the benefits of the graduated income tax, where the rate starts at only 10%.  Thus, most people who make between $30,000 and $200,000 would pay significantly higher taxes.  They wouldn't just pay tax on what they make, they would also pay tax on what they borrow and spend!
  2. There would certainly have to be exceptions for major purchases like homes - can you imagine what a 30% tax would do the housing market?
  3. Your crime analogy is flawed.... we would actually have more crime because those drug dealers you mention would diversify into stolen goods to be sold on the black market - with no taxes!  Just consider the bootleg cigarette market that sprung up after the cigarette tax was implemented.  And, what about all of the sales through E-bay and other online vendors - do you think they would charge a 30% tax?  Policing that would be just as burdensome as the current income tax - maybe more so.  Employers are much better at collecting income taxes than all of the vendors would be collecting sales tax.
  4. What about all of the people who have invested in Roth IRAs? They have already paid the tax on their retirement savings - they would be taxed AGAIN when they draw it out and spend it.  How is that for rewarding those that have planned for their retirement?  There is a similar problem with those who have invested in tax free muni-bonds and the like.
  5. The rich could still escape much of their tax burden by saving more - they are the only group that currently saves anything as it is.  And, if people save more, to cut their tax burden, the economy suffers.  As people spend less, the rate of the Fair Tax would be insufficient and it would have to go up - creating more of a burden on the middle class.  Those selling luxury items would be the hardest hit and many of the companies that make luxury goods would see sales decline and they would have to charge more for their products - making them even less appealing.  And, the middle class workers employed by these industries would suffer lob losses.  It would be a devastating cycle.
  6. How would the government function during economic recessions when unemployment rises and people spend less?  The Fair Tax would be much more volatile and it would make creating a balanced budget even more difficult. 

The Fair Tax is an appealing gimmick, but it is not really well thought out.  If you tried to make the Fair Tax workable and really fair - it would be just as complicated as the current income tax and it would still require a huge bureaucracy to police.

Sorry... I'm not a fan of it and I don't think we will ever see it.  If we tried it, I think we would end up trying to phase it in along side the income tax and we would end up having both.  We would never really be able to escape the income tax completely and we would just end up with two complicated tax systems.

Best,
Robert A. Franco
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Re: Off the beaten path - Scott Perry/PA
2/6/2009 1:51:09 PM (3578 views)
Still makes no sense.... - Robert Franco/OH
2/9/2009 1:09:11 PM (3836 views)
Re: Still makes no sense.... - Scott Perry/PA
2/10/2009 3:26:30 AM (3601 views)
Re: Still makes no sense.... - Robert Franco/OH
2/10/2009 9:59:16 AM (3617 views)
Re: Still makes no sense.... - Debbie Thibodeaux/LA
2/11/2009 1:07:54 PM (3569 views)
Re: Still makes no sense.... - Robert Franco/OH
2/11/2009 1:43:23 PM (3570 views)
Re: Still makes no sense.... - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/11/2009 4:48:23 PM (3561 views)
Re: Still makes no sense.... - Robert Franco/OH
2/12/2009 12:46:38 AM (3465 views)
Re: Still makes no sense.... - Douglas Gallant/OH
2/11/2009 5:06:23 PM (3537 views)
As I Was Saying... - Scott Perry/PA
2/16/2009 12:14:21 AM (3558 views)
Re: As I Was Saying... - Robert Franco/OH
2/16/2009 11:56:29 AM (3651 views)
Re: Commercial Activity Tax... - Robert Franco/OH
2/16/2009 3:04:27 PM (6204 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Clanci Nelson/OH
2/6/2009 4:45:51 PM (3682 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/6/2009 6:17:30 AM (3643 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Robert Franco/OH
2/6/2009 10:03:24 AM (3643 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/4/2009 10:47:54 AM (3782 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Robert Franco/OH
2/4/2009 11:06:18 AM (3602 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/4/2009 11:10:33 AM (3565 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Scott Perry/PA
2/4/2009 11:31:26 AM (3650 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/4/2009 11:59:28 AM (3659 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Barbara Bennett/IN
2/4/2009 3:28:50 PM (3459 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/4/2009 11:21:39 AM (3570 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Clanci Nelson/OH
2/5/2009 4:25:01 PM (3774 views)




reporting non-paying title companies to the underwriters - Michael Lanin/KY
2/3/2009 1:20:18 PM (3271 views)
Re: reporting non-paying title companies to the underwriters - Robert Franco/OH
2/3/2009 2:25:20 PM (4030 views)
Re: reporting non-paying title companies to the underwriters - Michelle/IL
2/4/2009 1:18:59 PM (3617 views)
Re: reporting non-paying title companies to the underwriters - J Nisonger/CA
2/5/2009 10:00:22 PM (3763 views)
Re: reporting non-paying title companies to the underwriters - Michael Lanin/KY
2/6/2009 12:52:40 PM (3669 views)
Re: reporting non-paying title companies to the underwriters - J Nisonger/CA
2/7/2009 3:56:45 PM (3557 views)
Re: reporting non-paying title companies to the underwriters - Clanci Nelson/OH
2/12/2009 2:18:17 PM (3500 views)
Re: reporting non-paying title companies to the underwriters - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
2/17/2009 9:17:45 AM (3494 views)

Title Assurance & Indemnity Corp. of NA Cleveland, OH - MIchael Lanin/KY
2/3/2009 1:01:36 PM (2495 views)

The Law Firm of Crystal Lowery - Edward Huguenin/SC
2/1/2009 8:20:52 AM (3657 views)
Re: The Law Firm of Crystal Lowery - Wendi See/SC
2/1/2009 6:37:04 PM (3786 views)
Re: The Law Firm of Crystal Lowery - Janis Talbot/SC
2/2/2009 9:11:46 AM (4040 views)
Re: The Law Firm of Crystal Lowery - Wendi See/SC
2/2/2009 8:34:15 PM (3858 views)
Re: The Law Firm of Crystal Lowery - Edward Huguenin/SC
2/3/2009 7:10:57 AM (3777 views)

What is considered slow pay? - no name/MI
1/30/2009 12:50:38 PM (3260 views)
Re: What is considered slow pay? - Jessica Talley/NJ
1/30/2009 12:59:33 PM (3854 views)
Re: What is considered slow pay? - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/30/2009 1:33:34 PM (4095 views)

Probate Question - Helene /GA
1/29/2009 11:50:27 PM (3133 views)
Re: Probate Question - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/30/2009 6:52:39 AM (4027 views)
Maybe a shifting executory interest... - Robert Franco/OH
1/30/2009 9:28:41 AM (4095 views)
Re: Maybe a shifting executory interest... - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/30/2009 10:01:35 AM (3838 views)
Re: Maybe a shifting executory interest... - Robert Franco/OH
1/30/2009 10:25:15 AM (3674 views)
Re: Maybe a shifting executory interest... - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/30/2009 10:49:36 AM (3710 views)
Re: Maybe a shifting executory interest... - Helene /GA
1/30/2009 10:38:14 PM (3796 views)
Re: Maybe a shifting executory interest... - Douglas Gallant/OH
1/31/2009 8:27:20 AM (3804 views)

Preview of Coming Attractions? - Scott Perry/PA
1/29/2009 10:53:59 PM (4875 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/29/2009 11:22:02 PM (4106 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - Scott Perry/PA
1/29/2009 11:58:37 PM (3877 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - Jessica Talley/NJ
1/30/2009 8:07:42 AM (4086 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/30/2009 8:15:04 AM (4123 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/30/2009 8:16:02 AM (4020 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - Alix Ott/MI
2/2/2009 2:10:27 PM (3801 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/30/2009 8:46:02 AM (3991 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - Jessica Talley/NJ
1/30/2009 12:55:40 PM (5647 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - michael quinn/NY
2/1/2009 1:09:50 AM (3808 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/1/2009 6:01:27 AM (3899 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - WAYNE QUICK/NC
2/2/2009 6:16:26 PM (3839 views)

The Bankruptcy Club - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/29/2009 2:56:14 PM (3472 views)
Re: The Bankruptcy Club - Kim Cowles/WI
1/29/2009 2:59:08 PM (4054 views)
Re: The Bankruptcy Club - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/29/2009 3:48:35 PM (3831 views)
Re: The Bankruptcy Club - Jessica Talley/NJ
1/29/2009 6:58:44 PM (3830 views)
Re: The Bankruptcy Club - Barbara Kelley/PA
2/2/2009 8:50:30 AM (3760 views)
Re: The Bankruptcy Club - Robert Franco/OH
2/2/2009 9:33:45 AM (3918 views)
Re: The Bankruptcy Club - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
2/3/2009 10:43:16 PM (3873 views)
Re: The Bankruptcy Club - Anthony Joseph/TX
2/4/2009 8:22:07 AM (3926 views)
Re: The Bankruptcy Club - george Hubka/MI
2/25/2009 6:04:15 AM (3566 views)

MONEY OWED - quinn cioffi/PA
1/28/2009 2:38:15 PM (3504 views)
Re: MONEY OWED - Laurie E/MD
1/28/2009 6:04:33 PM (3729 views)
Re: MONEY OWED - george Hubka/MI
2/24/2009 6:51:47 PM (3498 views)

New Real Estate Numbers Are Out - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/28/2009 2:25:36 PM (4255 views)

Snow Day! - Robert Franco/OH
1/28/2009 12:39:37 PM (3118 views)
Re: Snow Day! - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
1/28/2009 12:45:16 PM (3845 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Nils Nelson/ME
1/28/2009 4:37:10 PM (3856 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Joanie Hahr/VT
1/28/2009 5:05:58 PM (3622 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Glenda Hodge/TN
1/28/2009 11:14:51 PM (3665 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Sheila Sten/PA
1/29/2009 2:39:41 PM (3553 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Clanci Nelson/OH
1/29/2009 3:36:29 PM (3689 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Scott Perry/PA
1/29/2009 10:41:24 PM (3710 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Clanci Nelson/OH
1/30/2009 3:55:14 PM (3962 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Sheila Sten/PA
1/31/2009 10:31:02 AM (3789 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Sheila Sten/PA
1/31/2009 10:30:35 AM (3721 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/31/2009 12:36:02 PM (3652 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Scott Perry/PA
1/31/2009 3:42:38 PM (3721 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Scott Perry/PA
1/31/2009 3:44:38 PM (3652 views)


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