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reporting non-paying title companies to the underwriters - Michael Lanin/KY
2/3/2009 1:20:18 PM (3073 views)
Re: reporting non-paying title companies to the underwriters - Robert Franco/OH
2/3/2009 2:25:20 PM (3388 views)
Re: reporting non-paying title companies to the underwriters - Michelle/IL
2/4/2009 1:18:59 PM (3048 views)
Re: reporting non-paying title companies to the underwriters - J Nisonger/CA
2/5/2009 10:00:22 PM (3152 views)
Re: reporting non-paying title companies to the underwriters - Michael Lanin/KY
2/6/2009 12:52:40 PM (3045 views)
Re: reporting non-paying title companies to the underwriters - J Nisonger/CA
2/7/2009 3:56:45 PM (2970 views)
Re: reporting non-paying title companies to the underwriters - Clanci Nelson/OH
2/12/2009 2:18:17 PM (2839 views)
Re: reporting non-paying title companies to the underwriters - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
2/17/2009 9:17:45 AM (2919 views)

Title Assurance & Indemnity Corp. of NA Cleveland, OH - MIchael Lanin/KY
2/3/2009 1:01:36 PM (2360 views)

The Law Firm of Crystal Lowery - Edward Huguenin/SC
2/1/2009 8:20:52 AM (3511 views)
Re: The Law Firm of Crystal Lowery - Wendi See/SC
2/1/2009 6:37:04 PM (3181 views)
Re: The Law Firm of Crystal Lowery - Janis Talbot/SC
2/2/2009 9:11:46 AM (3412 views)
Re: The Law Firm of Crystal Lowery - Wendi See/SC
2/2/2009 8:34:15 PM (3273 views)
Re: The Law Firm of Crystal Lowery - Edward Huguenin/SC
2/3/2009 7:10:57 AM (3140 views)

What is considered slow pay? - no name/MI
1/30/2009 12:50:38 PM (3099 views)
Re: What is considered slow pay? - Jessica Talley/NJ
1/30/2009 12:59:33 PM (3242 views)
Re: What is considered slow pay? - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/30/2009 1:33:34 PM (3418 views)

Probate Question - Helene /GA
1/29/2009 11:50:27 PM (2997 views)
Re: Probate Question - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/30/2009 6:52:39 AM (3395 views)
Maybe a shifting executory interest... - Robert Franco/OH
1/30/2009 9:28:41 AM (3415 views)

Ah... an excellent question that seemed so irrelevant when we studied this stuff in Property class a few years ago.  We just don't see this kind of odd-ball stuff very often.

I think that this might be a shifting executory interest, rather than a sprining executory interest.  But, I guess that would depend on how the conveyance is worded (it doesn't seem very clear to me).  A springing executory interest cuts short the grantor's interest, if a third party interest gets cut short, it is a shifting executory interest.  In this case, I get the impression that the title was conveyed to "M, but when J reaches the age of 25, then to J."  In that case, I believe that M has a fee simple interest subject to a condition subsequent - J attaining the age of 25 - and J. has a shifting executory interest, since if the condition is met it cuts short the interst of a third party, M. 

I believe that if J dies before reaching the age of 25, the executory interest terminates and M would have good title with no condition subsequent.  I think from an underwriting perspective, I would prefer to see an affidavit with an attached death certificate for J.  I don't think there would be a problem if there was something in the chain of title that clearly showed J's death before reaching the age of 25.

But, like Kevin said... this is pretty complicated and the best you can do is report your findings and let your client decide how to handle it.  It will depend on exactly how the conveyance was termed in the will.

What do you think, Kevin?  Am I understanding this well enough to pass the bar exam in July?

And, thank you so much Helene for posting such a wonderful question!  These are the kinds of topics I think we should be dicussing much more often on the forums.  We can all learn a lot from these types of exchanges.

Best,
Robert A. Franco
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Re: Maybe a shifting executory interest... - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/30/2009 10:01:35 AM (3180 views)
Re: Maybe a shifting executory interest... - Robert Franco/OH
1/30/2009 10:25:15 AM (3017 views)
Re: Maybe a shifting executory interest... - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/30/2009 10:49:36 AM (3095 views)
Re: Maybe a shifting executory interest... - Helene /GA
1/30/2009 10:38:14 PM (3129 views)
Re: Maybe a shifting executory interest... - Douglas Gallant/OH
1/31/2009 8:27:20 AM (3158 views)


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Preview of Coming Attractions? - Scott Perry/PA
1/29/2009 10:53:59 PM (4689 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/29/2009 11:22:02 PM (3408 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - Scott Perry/PA
1/29/2009 11:58:37 PM (3230 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - Jessica Talley/NJ
1/30/2009 8:07:42 AM (3424 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/30/2009 8:15:04 AM (3449 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/30/2009 8:16:02 AM (3347 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - Alix Ott/MI
2/2/2009 2:10:27 PM (3132 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/30/2009 8:46:02 AM (3306 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - Jessica Talley/NJ
1/30/2009 12:55:40 PM (3142 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - michael quinn/NY
2/1/2009 1:09:50 AM (3095 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/1/2009 6:01:27 AM (3226 views)
Re: Preview of Coming Attractions? - WAYNE QUICK/NC
2/2/2009 6:16:26 PM (3143 views)

The Bankruptcy Club - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/29/2009 2:56:14 PM (3284 views)
Re: The Bankruptcy Club - Kim Cowles/WI
1/29/2009 2:59:08 PM (3343 views)
Re: The Bankruptcy Club - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/29/2009 3:48:35 PM (3245 views)
Re: The Bankruptcy Club - Jessica Talley/NJ
1/29/2009 6:58:44 PM (3218 views)
Re: The Bankruptcy Club - Barbara Kelley/PA
2/2/2009 8:50:30 AM (3113 views)
Re: The Bankruptcy Club - Robert Franco/OH
2/2/2009 9:33:45 AM (3274 views)
Re: The Bankruptcy Club - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
2/3/2009 10:43:16 PM (3239 views)
Re: The Bankruptcy Club - Anthony Joseph/TX
2/4/2009 8:22:07 AM (3343 views)
Re: The Bankruptcy Club - george Hubka/MI
2/25/2009 6:04:15 AM (2929 views)

MONEY OWED - quinn cioffi/PA
1/28/2009 2:38:15 PM (3323 views)
Re: MONEY OWED - Laurie E/MD
1/28/2009 6:04:33 PM (3218 views)
Re: MONEY OWED - george Hubka/MI
2/24/2009 6:51:47 PM (2981 views)

New Real Estate Numbers Are Out - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/28/2009 2:25:36 PM (4052 views)

Snow Day! - Robert Franco/OH
1/28/2009 12:39:37 PM (2989 views)
Re: Snow Day! - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
1/28/2009 12:45:16 PM (3319 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Nils Nelson/ME
1/28/2009 4:37:10 PM (3337 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Joanie Hahr/VT
1/28/2009 5:05:58 PM (3116 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Glenda Hodge/TN
1/28/2009 11:14:51 PM (3138 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Sheila Sten/PA
1/29/2009 2:39:41 PM (3022 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Clanci Nelson/OH
1/29/2009 3:36:29 PM (3144 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Scott Perry/PA
1/29/2009 10:41:24 PM (3176 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Clanci Nelson/OH
1/30/2009 3:55:14 PM (3416 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Sheila Sten/PA
1/31/2009 10:31:02 AM (3250 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Sheila Sten/PA
1/31/2009 10:30:35 AM (3220 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/31/2009 12:36:02 PM (3130 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Scott Perry/PA
1/31/2009 3:42:38 PM (3151 views)
Re: Snow Day! - Scott Perry/PA
1/31/2009 3:44:38 PM (3113 views)

NALTEA - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/28/2009 12:13:09 PM (2794 views)
Re: NALTEA - Dave Pelligrinelli/GA
1/28/2009 1:05:51 PM (3266 views)
Re: NALTEA - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/28/2009 9:54:56 PM (3148 views)

Buckeye Land Abstract - Sybil East/GA
1/27/2009 12:54:18 PM (3151 views)

Another NON-Payer - Kurt deVries/FL
1/27/2009 12:19:30 PM (2802 views)

Title Insurance - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/27/2009 10:54:55 AM (3058 views)
Re: Title Insurance - Robert Franco/OH
1/27/2009 11:37:48 AM (3402 views)
Re: Title Insurance - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY
1/27/2009 11:49:53 AM (3182 views)
Re: Title Insurance - Pete Kisan/OH
2/4/2009 8:45:38 AM (3380 views)

Infotrack Information Services - Edward Huguenin/SC
1/27/2009 7:12:47 AM (3238 views)
Re: Infotrack Information Services - Sandra Harold/KS
2/11/2009 11:30:35 AM (3321 views)
Re: Infotrack Information Services - Greg Paszkiewicz/NJ
2/23/2009 12:49:29 PM (3381 views)
Re: Infotrack Information Services - Frank NAVARRO/IL
4/8/2009 12:46:12 PM (3252 views)


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