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[+] A "thank you & happy new year" to Robert! - Alix Ott/MI (4 replies)
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[+] Career Dilemma - Robert Franco/OH (3 replies)
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[+] Transtar National Title Beware - James "Lin" Toney/MS (5 replies)
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[+] Title Examiner / Abstractor (Telecommute) - Rebecca Fair/FL (4 replies)
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[+] Field Notes - Ellen Maher/MI (5 replies)
12/23/2008 10:34:35 AM (3786 views)

[+] Richard Bolen - Janis Talbot/SC (7 replies)
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[+] GLOBAL TITLE REPORTING SERVICES INC. - Joan Howland/CT (7 replies)
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[+] Give this Christmas gift to your good clients/vendors! - Slade Smith/OH (3 replies)
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[+] New York Title Abstract - Ron McPherson/IA (4 replies)
12/21/2008 8:26:40 PM (3889 views)

[+] REFERENCES ON ABG - Debbie Thibodeaux/LA (3 replies)
12/18/2008 7:10:05 PM (3896 views)

[+] Lipstick on a Pig? REVISED POSTING - . APS/NY (1 reply)
12/18/2008 4:04:54 PM (3977 views)

[+] Legacy Title (Indiana) - Barbara Bennett/IN (1 reply)
12/17/2008 7:13:52 PM (4075 views)

[-] Remove Disclaimer ??? - Glenda Hodge/TN (49 replies)
12/17/2008 6:47:39 PM (4277 views)
Hold Your Ground - Scott Perry/PA
12/17/2008 11:21:13 PM (5245 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Robert Franco/OH
12/18/2008 9:52:15 AM (5282 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - MW/IL
12/18/2008 11:51:21 AM (5005 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Clanci Nelson/OH
12/19/2008 12:53:07 PM (4898 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Scott Perry/PA
12/19/2008 10:27:28 AM (5280 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
12/19/2008 11:20:50 AM (4896 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Robert Franco/OH
12/19/2008 1:08:43 PM (4867 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
12/19/2008 8:00:10 PM (4857 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Scott Perry/PA
12/19/2008 1:26:48 PM (4905 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
12/19/2008 3:17:38 PM (4759 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Scott Perry/PA
12/20/2008 10:01:23 PM (4595 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
12/20/2008 10:14:12 PM (4814 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - J Nisonger/CA
12/27/2008 9:32:33 PM (4648 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Patricia Turley/MI
12/22/2008 6:34:06 AM (4833 views)
Is that really necessary? - Robert Franco/OH
12/22/2008 9:54:07 AM (4702 views)
A place for disclaimers - David Bloys/TX
12/22/2008 10:01:16 AM (5148 views)
Re: A place for disclaimers - William Pattison /CA
1/5/2009 12:33:33 PM (4698 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Nils Nelson/ME
12/22/2008 9:41:02 AM (4764 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Janis Talbot/SC
12/22/2008 10:51:09 AM (4760 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - John /FL
12/23/2008 3:41:07 PM (4880 views)
Your Analogy Is Flawed - Scott Perry/PA
12/24/2008 2:08:44 AM (4774 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Dan Zook/NY
12/24/2008 8:44:35 AM (4619 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - John /FL
12/24/2008 12:29:13 PM (4509 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Scott Perry/PA
12/24/2008 1:21:10 PM (4532 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - John /FL
12/24/2008 1:46:55 PM (4699 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Scott Perry/PA
12/24/2008 2:13:15 PM (4763 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - John /FL
12/25/2008 1:27:00 AM (7268 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Scott Perry/PA
12/26/2008 10:00:55 AM (4504 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - J Nisonger/CA
12/27/2008 9:43:45 PM (4712 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Scott Perry/PA
12/28/2008 1:03:26 AM (4648 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Dan Zook/NY
12/29/2008 11:36:35 AM (4536 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Robert Franco/OH
12/29/2008 11:43:18 AM (4568 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Clanci Nelson/OH
12/30/2008 8:56:23 AM (4476 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - John /FL
12/24/2008 12:51:48 PM (4479 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Scott Perry/PA
12/24/2008 1:25:51 PM (4639 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - James "Lin" Toney/MS
12/30/2008 7:49:56 PM (4488 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Clanci Nelson/OH
12/31/2008 2:49:09 PM (6686 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - stephen willard/OH
1/6/2009 7:17:22 AM (4495 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - michael quinn/NY
1/6/2009 9:34:34 AM (4647 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Robert Franco/OH
1/6/2009 5:02:27 PM (4385 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - michael quinn/NY
1/7/2009 3:01:26 AM (4655 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Robert Franco/OH
1/7/2009 12:39:23 PM (4424 views)

You bring up some good points.  It does appear that having E&O insurance makes you a "deep pocket" and may make it more likely that a client will go after you for your mistakes.  But, if you have assets (i.e., a home) you could still be sued and, without E&O, you could lose them.  We really haven't seen it happen much in the past, but with the huge losses the underwriters are facing they could start looking to collect from the abstractors who cause their losses.  The fact that the client has E&O insurance does not prevent you from getting sued.  When their E&O carrier pays the claim, they acquire subrogation rights against the abstractor and they could sue to recover their payout.  I'm surprised we haven't seen more of this, but I predict we will see it see it happen soon.

The article I posted (back in November 2004) does give the impression that the abstractor "might" have successfully limited his liability had he NOT had E&O.  (see Searcher Owes Insurer for Missed Lien) But, that is unclear.  His E&O policy was one factor the court looked at to determine whether the parties actually intended to make the disclaimer a part of their contract.  Whether or not the disclaimers are effective is not really known.  I suppose it depends a great deal on state laws.  It may work in some jurisdictions and not others.

There aren't a lot of cases out there.  First, if the abstractor carries E&O insurance the cases are often settled and you don't hear about them.  Second, if the abstractor doesn't carry E&O he may not have sufficient resources to pay a judgment and the suit is not worth pursuing.  I think the fact that many clients now require E&O, and some clients are told by their E&O carriers that they have to require that their abstractors carry E&O, shows that they are considering pursuing recourse against the abstractors.  If they start doing this, I would hate to be caught in a claims situation without coverage.  Maybe the disclaimer will hold up in court... maybe it won't.  That is not a chance I would want to take.

Ultimately, I believe that the abstractors should be liable for the losses they cause.  Perhaps if there were more suits against the abstractors, we would see many of the "fly-by-night" companies disappear.  If they had E&O, they wouldn't be able to afford it after a couple of claims, and if they didn't have it, they would not be able to afford the first claim they are hit with. 

Like I said, I know there is completely different mindset regarding E&O in New York.  I have spoken to several New York abstractors who told me that nobody carries the coverage.  We have never had to file a claim on our policy, but I wouldn't be able to sleep at night if we didn't have it.  Anyone can make a mistake and you never know when a client will decide to make an example of somebody.

Best,
Robert A. Franco
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Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - michael quinn/NY
1/9/2009 11:50:36 PM (4402 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Robert Franco/OH
1/10/2009 11:47:01 AM (4459 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
1/10/2009 1:52:55 PM (6585 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Scott Perry/PA
1/10/2009 5:35:24 PM (4631 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - michael quinn/NY
1/11/2009 1:58:20 AM (4314 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Clanci Nelson/OH
1/6/2009 4:57:07 PM (4208 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Robert Franco/OH
1/6/2009 5:14:49 PM (4250 views)

[+] Beware of Richmond Title - Virginia Capps/TN (7 replies)
12/15/2008 5:51:53 PM (4368 views)


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