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[+] REFERENCES ON ABG - Debbie Thibodeaux/LA (3 replies)
12/18/2008 7:10:05 PM (4179 views)

[+] Lipstick on a Pig? REVISED POSTING - . APS/NY (1 reply)
12/18/2008 4:04:54 PM (4200 views)

[+] Legacy Title (Indiana) - Barbara Bennett/IN (1 reply)
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[-] Remove Disclaimer ??? - Glenda Hodge/TN (49 replies)
12/17/2008 6:47:39 PM (4527 views)
Hold Your Ground - Scott Perry/PA
12/17/2008 11:21:13 PM (6054 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Robert Franco/OH
12/18/2008 9:52:15 AM (6064 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - MW/IL
12/18/2008 11:51:21 AM (5857 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Clanci Nelson/OH
12/19/2008 12:53:07 PM (5662 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Scott Perry/PA
12/19/2008 10:27:28 AM (6059 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
12/19/2008 11:20:50 AM (5696 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Robert Franco/OH
12/19/2008 1:08:43 PM (5651 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
12/19/2008 8:00:10 PM (5630 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Scott Perry/PA
12/19/2008 1:26:48 PM (5742 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
12/19/2008 3:17:38 PM (5534 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Scott Perry/PA
12/20/2008 10:01:23 PM (5415 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
12/20/2008 10:14:12 PM (5600 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - J Nisonger/CA
12/27/2008 9:32:33 PM (5407 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Patricia Turley/MI
12/22/2008 6:34:06 AM (5641 views)
Is that really necessary? - Robert Franco/OH
12/22/2008 9:54:07 AM (5495 views)
A place for disclaimers - David Bloys/TX
12/22/2008 10:01:16 AM (5972 views)
Re: A place for disclaimers - William Pattison /CA
1/5/2009 12:33:33 PM (5560 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Nils Nelson/ME
12/22/2008 9:41:02 AM (5571 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Janis Talbot/SC
12/22/2008 10:51:09 AM (5548 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - John /FL
12/23/2008 3:41:07 PM (5669 views)
Your Analogy Is Flawed - Scott Perry/PA
12/24/2008 2:08:44 AM (5571 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Dan Zook/NY
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Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - John /FL
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Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - John /FL
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Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - John /FL
12/25/2008 1:27:00 AM (8181 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - J Nisonger/CA
12/27/2008 9:43:45 PM (5513 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Scott Perry/PA
12/28/2008 1:03:26 AM (5424 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Dan Zook/NY
12/29/2008 11:36:35 AM (5299 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Robert Franco/OH
12/29/2008 11:43:18 AM (5387 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Clanci Nelson/OH
12/30/2008 8:56:23 AM (5264 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - John /FL
12/24/2008 12:51:48 PM (5257 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Scott Perry/PA
12/24/2008 1:25:51 PM (5359 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - James "Lin" Toney/MS
12/30/2008 7:49:56 PM (5230 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Clanci Nelson/OH
12/31/2008 2:49:09 PM (7468 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - stephen willard/OH
1/6/2009 7:17:22 AM (5287 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - michael quinn/NY
1/6/2009 9:34:34 AM (5442 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Robert Franco/OH
1/6/2009 5:02:27 PM (5173 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - michael quinn/NY
1/7/2009 3:01:26 AM (5458 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Robert Franco/OH
1/7/2009 12:39:23 PM (5195 views)

You bring up some good points.  It does appear that having E&O insurance makes you a "deep pocket" and may make it more likely that a client will go after you for your mistakes.  But, if you have assets (i.e., a home) you could still be sued and, without E&O, you could lose them.  We really haven't seen it happen much in the past, but with the huge losses the underwriters are facing they could start looking to collect from the abstractors who cause their losses.  The fact that the client has E&O insurance does not prevent you from getting sued.  When their E&O carrier pays the claim, they acquire subrogation rights against the abstractor and they could sue to recover their payout.  I'm surprised we haven't seen more of this, but I predict we will see it see it happen soon.

The article I posted (back in November 2004) does give the impression that the abstractor "might" have successfully limited his liability had he NOT had E&O.  (see Searcher Owes Insurer for Missed Lien) But, that is unclear.  His E&O policy was one factor the court looked at to determine whether the parties actually intended to make the disclaimer a part of their contract.  Whether or not the disclaimers are effective is not really known.  I suppose it depends a great deal on state laws.  It may work in some jurisdictions and not others.

There aren't a lot of cases out there.  First, if the abstractor carries E&O insurance the cases are often settled and you don't hear about them.  Second, if the abstractor doesn't carry E&O he may not have sufficient resources to pay a judgment and the suit is not worth pursuing.  I think the fact that many clients now require E&O, and some clients are told by their E&O carriers that they have to require that their abstractors carry E&O, shows that they are considering pursuing recourse against the abstractors.  If they start doing this, I would hate to be caught in a claims situation without coverage.  Maybe the disclaimer will hold up in court... maybe it won't.  That is not a chance I would want to take.

Ultimately, I believe that the abstractors should be liable for the losses they cause.  Perhaps if there were more suits against the abstractors, we would see many of the "fly-by-night" companies disappear.  If they had E&O, they wouldn't be able to afford it after a couple of claims, and if they didn't have it, they would not be able to afford the first claim they are hit with. 

Like I said, I know there is completely different mindset regarding E&O in New York.  I have spoken to several New York abstractors who told me that nobody carries the coverage.  We have never had to file a claim on our policy, but I wouldn't be able to sleep at night if we didn't have it.  Anyone can make a mistake and you never know when a client will decide to make an example of somebody.

Best,
Robert A. Franco
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Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - michael quinn/NY
1/9/2009 11:50:36 PM (5192 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Robert Franco/OH
1/10/2009 11:47:01 AM (5234 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
1/10/2009 1:52:55 PM (7464 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Scott Perry/PA
1/10/2009 5:35:24 PM (5459 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - michael quinn/NY
1/11/2009 1:58:20 AM (5089 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Clanci Nelson/OH
1/6/2009 4:57:07 PM (4929 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Robert Franco/OH
1/6/2009 5:14:49 PM (5079 views)

[+] Beware of Richmond Title - Virginia Capps/TN (7 replies)
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[+] First American Doc Edge Software - ecenteno/NV (5 replies)
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[+] Letter sent re: deed copy for $$ - Clanci Nelson/OH (2 replies)
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[+] C- Fax - Douglas Johnson/MN (3 replies)
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[+] Please help stop the auction... - J Nisonger/CA (25 replies)
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[+] Timios, Inc - Ken/AL (3 replies)
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[+] Holiday Cheer! - Dan Zook/NY (5 replies)
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[+] ESS Solutions, LLC - Christine Sheeler/PA (2 replies)
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[+] LandAmerica - Barbara Bennett/IN (7 replies)
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[+] EFS Bankrupcy & Debt Acquisition Co of America - Rebecca Fair/FL (4 replies)
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