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[+] GLOBAL TITLE REPORTING SERVICES INC. - Joan Howland/CT (7 replies)
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[+] Give this Christmas gift to your good clients/vendors! - Slade Smith/OH (3 replies)
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[+] New York Title Abstract - Ron McPherson/IA (4 replies)
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[+] REFERENCES ON ABG - Debbie Thibodeaux/LA (3 replies)
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[+] Lipstick on a Pig? REVISED POSTING - . APS/NY (1 reply)
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[+] Legacy Title (Indiana) - Barbara Bennett/IN (1 reply)
12/17/2008 7:13:52 PM (4160 views)

[-] Remove Disclaimer ??? - Glenda Hodge/TN (49 replies)
12/17/2008 6:47:39 PM (4377 views)
Hold Your Ground - Scott Perry/PA
12/17/2008 11:21:13 PM (5509 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Robert Franco/OH
12/18/2008 9:52:15 AM (5530 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - MW/IL
12/18/2008 11:51:21 AM (5277 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Clanci Nelson/OH
12/19/2008 12:53:07 PM (5134 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Scott Perry/PA
12/19/2008 10:27:28 AM (5515 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
12/19/2008 11:20:50 AM (5133 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Robert Franco/OH
12/19/2008 1:08:43 PM (5110 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
12/19/2008 8:00:10 PM (5098 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Scott Perry/PA
12/19/2008 1:26:48 PM (5158 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
12/19/2008 3:17:38 PM (5019 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Scott Perry/PA
12/20/2008 10:01:23 PM (4879 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
12/20/2008 10:14:12 PM (5066 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - J Nisonger/CA
12/27/2008 9:32:33 PM (4885 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Patricia Turley/MI
12/22/2008 6:34:06 AM (5075 views)
Is that really necessary? - Robert Franco/OH
12/22/2008 9:54:07 AM (4949 views)
A place for disclaimers - David Bloys/TX
12/22/2008 10:01:16 AM (5420 views)
Re: A place for disclaimers - William Pattison /CA
1/5/2009 12:33:33 PM (4940 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Nils Nelson/ME
12/22/2008 9:41:02 AM (5009 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Janis Talbot/SC
12/22/2008 10:51:09 AM (4990 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - John /FL
12/23/2008 3:41:07 PM (5142 views)
Your Analogy Is Flawed - Scott Perry/PA
12/24/2008 2:08:44 AM (5017 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Dan Zook/NY
12/24/2008 8:44:35 AM (4874 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - John /FL
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Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - John /FL
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Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Scott Perry/PA
12/24/2008 2:13:15 PM (5012 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - John /FL
12/25/2008 1:27:00 AM (7537 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Scott Perry/PA
12/26/2008 10:00:55 AM (4742 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - J Nisonger/CA
12/27/2008 9:43:45 PM (4978 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Scott Perry/PA
12/28/2008 1:03:26 AM (4891 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Dan Zook/NY
12/29/2008 11:36:35 AM (4770 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Robert Franco/OH
12/29/2008 11:43:18 AM (4820 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Clanci Nelson/OH
12/30/2008 8:56:23 AM (4725 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - John /FL
12/24/2008 12:51:48 PM (4726 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Scott Perry/PA
12/24/2008 1:25:51 PM (4873 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - James "Lin" Toney/MS
12/30/2008 7:49:56 PM (4722 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Clanci Nelson/OH
12/31/2008 2:49:09 PM (6945 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - stephen willard/OH
1/6/2009 7:17:22 AM (4739 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - michael quinn/NY
1/6/2009 9:34:34 AM (4883 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Robert Franco/OH
1/6/2009 5:02:27 PM (4633 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - michael quinn/NY
1/7/2009 3:01:26 AM (4918 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Robert Franco/OH
1/7/2009 12:39:23 PM (4655 views)

You bring up some good points.  It does appear that having E&O insurance makes you a "deep pocket" and may make it more likely that a client will go after you for your mistakes.  But, if you have assets (i.e., a home) you could still be sued and, without E&O, you could lose them.  We really haven't seen it happen much in the past, but with the huge losses the underwriters are facing they could start looking to collect from the abstractors who cause their losses.  The fact that the client has E&O insurance does not prevent you from getting sued.  When their E&O carrier pays the claim, they acquire subrogation rights against the abstractor and they could sue to recover their payout.  I'm surprised we haven't seen more of this, but I predict we will see it see it happen soon.

The article I posted (back in November 2004) does give the impression that the abstractor "might" have successfully limited his liability had he NOT had E&O.  (see Searcher Owes Insurer for Missed Lien) But, that is unclear.  His E&O policy was one factor the court looked at to determine whether the parties actually intended to make the disclaimer a part of their contract.  Whether or not the disclaimers are effective is not really known.  I suppose it depends a great deal on state laws.  It may work in some jurisdictions and not others.

There aren't a lot of cases out there.  First, if the abstractor carries E&O insurance the cases are often settled and you don't hear about them.  Second, if the abstractor doesn't carry E&O he may not have sufficient resources to pay a judgment and the suit is not worth pursuing.  I think the fact that many clients now require E&O, and some clients are told by their E&O carriers that they have to require that their abstractors carry E&O, shows that they are considering pursuing recourse against the abstractors.  If they start doing this, I would hate to be caught in a claims situation without coverage.  Maybe the disclaimer will hold up in court... maybe it won't.  That is not a chance I would want to take.

Ultimately, I believe that the abstractors should be liable for the losses they cause.  Perhaps if there were more suits against the abstractors, we would see many of the "fly-by-night" companies disappear.  If they had E&O, they wouldn't be able to afford it after a couple of claims, and if they didn't have it, they would not be able to afford the first claim they are hit with. 

Like I said, I know there is completely different mindset regarding E&O in New York.  I have spoken to several New York abstractors who told me that nobody carries the coverage.  We have never had to file a claim on our policy, but I wouldn't be able to sleep at night if we didn't have it.  Anyone can make a mistake and you never know when a client will decide to make an example of somebody.

Best,
Robert A. Franco
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Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - michael quinn/NY
1/9/2009 11:50:36 PM (4661 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Robert Franco/OH
1/10/2009 11:47:01 AM (4723 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
1/10/2009 1:52:55 PM (6857 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Scott Perry/PA
1/10/2009 5:35:24 PM (4871 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - michael quinn/NY
1/11/2009 1:58:20 AM (4575 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Clanci Nelson/OH
1/6/2009 4:57:07 PM (4447 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Robert Franco/OH
1/6/2009 5:14:49 PM (4482 views)

[+] Beware of Richmond Title - Virginia Capps/TN (7 replies)
12/15/2008 5:51:53 PM (4468 views)

[+] HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!! - HEIDI CIMA/PA (3 replies)
12/12/2008 2:15:57 PM (4439 views)

[+] First American Doc Edge Software - ecenteno/NV (5 replies)
12/12/2008 12:17:28 PM (4471 views)

[+] Letter sent re: deed copy for $$ - Clanci Nelson/OH (2 replies)
12/11/2008 10:50:53 AM (4108 views)

[+] C- Fax - Douglas Johnson/MN (3 replies)
12/11/2008 9:23:23 AM (3919 views)

[+] Please help stop the auction... - J Nisonger/CA (25 replies)
12/10/2008 9:28:13 PM (5854 views)

[+] Timios, Inc - Ken/AL (3 replies)
12/10/2008 6:02:13 PM (4849 views)

[+] Holiday Cheer! - Dan Zook/NY (5 replies)
12/10/2008 10:25:58 AM (3798 views)


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