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[+] A "thank you & happy new year" to Robert! - Alix Ott/MI (4 replies)
12/29/2008 11:25:10 AM (3524 views)

[+] Career Dilemma - Robert Franco/OH (3 replies)
12/29/2008 9:34:12 AM (4046 views)

[+] Transtar National Title Beware - James "Lin" Toney/MS (5 replies)
12/24/2008 3:57:44 PM (5560 views)

[+] Title Examiner / Abstractor (Telecommute) - Rebecca Fair/FL (4 replies)
12/23/2008 12:35:51 PM (6450 views)

[+] Title Examiner / Abstractor (Telecommute) - Rebecca Fair/FL (1 reply)
12/23/2008 12:34:40 PM (7170 views)


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[+] Field Notes - Ellen Maher/MI (5 replies)
12/23/2008 10:34:35 AM (3786 views)

[+] Richard Bolen - Janis Talbot/SC (7 replies)
12/22/2008 10:47:07 AM (3963 views)

[+] GLOBAL TITLE REPORTING SERVICES INC. - Joan Howland/CT (7 replies)
12/22/2008 10:00:45 AM (4496 views)

[+] Give this Christmas gift to your good clients/vendors! - Slade Smith/OH (3 replies)
12/22/2008 7:22:48 AM (3896 views)

[+] New York Title Abstract - Ron McPherson/IA (4 replies)
12/21/2008 8:26:40 PM (3889 views)

[+] REFERENCES ON ABG - Debbie Thibodeaux/LA (3 replies)
12/18/2008 7:10:05 PM (3896 views)

[+] Lipstick on a Pig? REVISED POSTING - . APS/NY (1 reply)
12/18/2008 4:04:54 PM (3977 views)

[+] Legacy Title (Indiana) - Barbara Bennett/IN (1 reply)
12/17/2008 7:13:52 PM (4075 views)

[-] Remove Disclaimer ??? - Glenda Hodge/TN (49 replies)
12/17/2008 6:47:39 PM (4277 views)
Hold Your Ground - Scott Perry/PA
12/17/2008 11:21:13 PM (5245 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Robert Franco/OH
12/18/2008 9:52:15 AM (5282 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - MW/IL
12/18/2008 11:51:21 AM (5005 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Clanci Nelson/OH
12/19/2008 12:53:07 PM (4898 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Scott Perry/PA
12/19/2008 10:27:28 AM (5280 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
12/19/2008 11:20:50 AM (4896 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Robert Franco/OH
12/19/2008 1:08:43 PM (4867 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
12/19/2008 8:00:10 PM (4857 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Scott Perry/PA
12/19/2008 1:26:48 PM (4905 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
12/19/2008 3:17:38 PM (4759 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Scott Perry/PA
12/20/2008 10:01:23 PM (4595 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
12/20/2008 10:14:12 PM (4814 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - J Nisonger/CA
12/27/2008 9:32:33 PM (4648 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Patricia Turley/MI
12/22/2008 6:34:06 AM (4832 views)

I agree that you should hold your ground with this company. Perhaps a question should be posed to this company - to what extent are they using the provided search? If this company is also using you, the abstractor, as it's title examiner then the blame lies with them.

I , too am fully insured, but also include a disclaimer. The disclaimer does not state that I am not proud of my work. Rather it provides that the search is provided from public records and that liability does not cover any error due to misinformation provided by such records. My searches will also include notes to the clients of observed deficiencies in the chain of title. This is provided as a courtesy to the client and does not claim to clear title. I will inform them on the search that a wife did not sign off, a death certificate was not recorded or that there is no record of probate papers filed on an estate. If a title company proceeds with a transaction without addressing any noted deficiencies, the liabilty now lies with them. The abstractor has no control over which transaction closes or does not close. I was once accused by a title company of losing a deal for them because my report showed a mortgage that had no discharge of record. They faxed over a copy of the recorded discharge provided to them by the mortgage broker. It turns out that they did close the deal based on this information. For my own piece of mind, I further researched the provided discharge to see how this could have been missed (mistakes do happen - that's why we are insured). Still the Liber and page of the provided document could not be found, The copy sent as proof of discharge contained a tax certification by the county treasurer. Who certifies a discharge? As it turns out, the discharge provided was a cut and paste job and a forgery. Is the abstractor to be held liable for this type of practice? By the way, this particular title company has ceased operations, it's owner declared bankruptcy and is currently being sued by their underwriter for fraudulant dealings

There are bad abstractors out there, but there are also many bad title companies. I stand by the quality of my work and am willing to go the extra mile for my clients.  For far too long we have been made the scapegoat for shoddy title examination. The title companies, in an effort to save money, are using the search reports for more than what they were intended for. A disclaimer notifies the client that your liability only covers the scope of your work. Don't like my disclaimer - send your work elsewhere.

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Is that really necessary? - Robert Franco/OH
12/22/2008 9:54:07 AM (4702 views)
A place for disclaimers - David Bloys/TX
12/22/2008 10:01:16 AM (5148 views)
Re: A place for disclaimers - William Pattison /CA
1/5/2009 12:33:33 PM (4698 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Nils Nelson/ME
12/22/2008 9:41:02 AM (4764 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Janis Talbot/SC
12/22/2008 10:51:09 AM (4760 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - John /FL
12/23/2008 3:41:07 PM (4880 views)
Your Analogy Is Flawed - Scott Perry/PA
12/24/2008 2:08:44 AM (4774 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Dan Zook/NY
12/24/2008 8:44:35 AM (4619 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - John /FL
12/24/2008 12:29:13 PM (4509 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Scott Perry/PA
12/24/2008 1:21:10 PM (4532 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - John /FL
12/24/2008 1:46:55 PM (4699 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Scott Perry/PA
12/24/2008 2:13:15 PM (4763 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - John /FL
12/25/2008 1:27:00 AM (7268 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Scott Perry/PA
12/26/2008 10:00:55 AM (4504 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - J Nisonger/CA
12/27/2008 9:43:45 PM (4712 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Scott Perry/PA
12/28/2008 1:03:26 AM (4648 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Dan Zook/NY
12/29/2008 11:36:35 AM (4536 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Robert Franco/OH
12/29/2008 11:43:18 AM (4568 views)
Re: Your Analogy Is Flawed - Clanci Nelson/OH
12/30/2008 8:56:23 AM (4476 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - John /FL
12/24/2008 12:51:48 PM (4479 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Scott Perry/PA
12/24/2008 1:25:51 PM (4639 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - James "Lin" Toney/MS
12/30/2008 7:49:56 PM (4488 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Clanci Nelson/OH
12/31/2008 2:49:09 PM (6686 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - stephen willard/OH
1/6/2009 7:17:22 AM (4495 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - michael quinn/NY
1/6/2009 9:34:34 AM (4647 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Robert Franco/OH
1/6/2009 5:02:27 PM (4385 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - michael quinn/NY
1/7/2009 3:01:26 AM (4655 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Robert Franco/OH
1/7/2009 12:39:23 PM (4424 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - michael quinn/NY
1/9/2009 11:50:36 PM (4402 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Robert Franco/OH
1/10/2009 11:47:01 AM (4459 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
1/10/2009 1:52:55 PM (6585 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Scott Perry/PA
1/10/2009 5:35:24 PM (4631 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - michael quinn/NY
1/11/2009 1:58:20 AM (4314 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Clanci Nelson/OH
1/6/2009 4:57:07 PM (4208 views)
Re: Remove Disclaimer ??? - Robert Franco/OH
1/6/2009 5:14:49 PM (4250 views)

[+] Beware of Richmond Title - Virginia Capps/TN (7 replies)
12/15/2008 5:51:53 PM (4368 views)


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