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[+] Title Stream - Rich Martin/ME (2 replies)
1/7/2009 9:46:53 PM (4022 views)

[+] A&C Abstract (Pittsburgh, PA) - Sheila Sten/PA (17 replies)
1/7/2009 1:28:03 PM (3517 views)

[-] scope of search beginning date - Nathan Miller/KY (10 replies)
1/6/2009 7:54:26 PM (3398 views)
Re: scope of search beginning date - THURBER & ASSOCIATES INC THURBER/ME
1/6/2009 9:34:28 PM (4033 views)
Start date ... - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
1/7/2009 7:55:36 AM (4162 views)
Re: scope of search beginning date - James "Lin" Toney/MS
1/7/2009 10:02:10 AM (4014 views)
Re: scope of search beginning date - Robert Franco/OH
1/7/2009 1:43:09 PM (4061 views)
Re: scope of search beginning date - Patrick Scott/IL
1/7/2009 11:06:09 PM (4139 views)

I'm in Robert's camp on this one.  I don't think there is really any need for a start date.  And, as Nathan mentioned in his original post, it could cause a recipient to question whether judgments have been searched for the proper number of years.

In my opinion, a search for open liens, whether it be a current owner, two owner, or any other limited search, should arrive at the customer showing all open liens.  This, to me, means that the abstractor searches to an acceptable point of beginning - even if it means searching back through the records of a prior owner.  It's not often around here, but we still occasionally run across an assumed mortgage. More often, I think, a mortgage recorded out of sequence.  The only exception I would place on that rule is in the event that the customer specifically requested a date to run forward.  I would then note those instructions on the search.

I am curious as to why a state's being a race-notice state would have any bearing on either your start date or your end date.  I think in most jurisdictions a lower document number would indicate priority in recording, would it not?  And, many counties, if not most or all, even stamp the time of recording on the document.  In our local counties, we use the cover date certified by the recorder.  This indicates that the recorder has posted all documents recorded up to the end of that day.  So, I guess that might be why I never have given the race-notice wrinkle any thought in that regard.  What's there is there as of the closing of the recorder's office on that given date.

As an aside, I believe that most states are now race-notice.  Illinois is one of them.  That doesn't stop the recorders in the larger counties from establishing their own recording priorities.  For example, large stacks of deeds and mortgages delivered by a title company may sit in the 'things to do eventually' basket, while a person can also walk up to the recording counter with a small number of instruments and see them recorded on the spot.  Hmmmm.

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Re: scope of search beginning date - David Keeling/TX
1/12/2009 8:57:07 PM (3601 views)
Re: scope of search beginning date - Kenneth Signor/SC
1/12/2009 8:13:11 AM (3625 views)
Re: scope of search beginning date - James "Lin" Toney/MS
1/12/2009 8:55:47 PM (3682 views)
Re: scope of search beginning date - William Pattison /CA
1/12/2009 12:14:16 PM (3924 views)
Re: scope of search beginning date - James "Lin" Toney/MS
1/12/2009 8:58:58 PM (3653 views)

[+] Platinum Abstracting Services - Edward Huguenin/SC (4 replies)
1/6/2009 5:36:15 PM (3842 views)

[+] Group9,inc (PA) - Carlton Johnson/NY (3 replies)
1/6/2009 10:30:44 AM (3971 views)


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[+] United One Resources - Edward Huguenin/SC (1 reply)
1/4/2009 4:02:16 PM (3696 views)

NALTEA Members - Meeting & Elections Jan.19th! - Patrick Scott/IL
1/2/2009 11:14:11 PM (2615 views)

[+] Boon Docs - VIVIAN SLYKER/OH (2 replies)
1/2/2009 1:35:10 PM (3783 views)

[+] Kevin Ahern - J Nisonger/CA (4 replies)
1/1/2009 11:48:56 PM (3750 views)

[+] CT TITLE SEARCHERS NEEDED - JACQUELINE PURCELL/CT (1 reply)
12/30/2008 10:43:01 PM (3888 views)

The Kreller Group - Cincinnati, OH - Dan Zook/NY
12/30/2008 12:01:31 PM (3461 views)

[+] Theft of Services... - Tracy/PA (5 replies)
12/30/2008 11:39:43 AM (4222 views)

[+] Corporate Abstract Services, NY - Laura Johnston/MI (3 replies)
12/29/2008 5:19:56 PM (3951 views)

[+] New York Title Abstract - Lumar/NJ (2 replies)
12/29/2008 4:50:54 PM (3628 views)

[+] PA people: Have you heard of these guys? - Alix Ott/MI (1 reply)
12/29/2008 1:44:29 PM (3930 views)


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