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Richmond Title - Constance Foye/VA
1/13/2009 10:10:58 AM (2920 views)
Re: Richmond Title - J Allen/NC
1/14/2009 11:14:37 AM (3159 views)

American Abstract - Constance Foye/VA
1/13/2009 10:08:02 AM (2843 views)
Re: American Abstract - Robert Franco/OH
1/13/2009 10:25:52 AM (3023 views)
Re: American Abstract - Jessica Talley/NJ
1/13/2009 10:55:51 AM (2997 views)

Fidelity Title - CHRISTIE NIELSEN/ID
1/12/2009 1:56:37 PM (2577 views)

National TitleNet - Samantha Martin/AL
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Old Republic Title - J Allen/NC
1/9/2009 5:27:51 PM (3614 views)
Re: Old Republic Title - Jessica Talley/NJ
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Re: Old Republic Title - CD/AL
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Color me jealous! - Dan Zook/NY
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Re: Old Republic Title - David Keeling/TX
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Re: Old Republic Title - Jean Lurtsema/AK
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Re: Old Republic Title - Sheila Sten/PA
1/12/2009 11:55:58 AM (3128 views)
Re: Old Republic Title - William Pattison /CA
1/12/2009 12:25:05 PM (3181 views)
Re: Old Republic Title - john franz/NJ
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Re: Old Republic Title - Jean Allen/NC
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25 year searches - john rutledge/VA
1/9/2009 8:41:33 AM (3256 views)
Re: 25 year searches - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
1/9/2009 12:20:25 PM (3275 views)
Re: 25 year searches - martha campbell/VA
1/12/2009 7:55:56 AM (3123 views)
Re: 25 year searches - David Keeling/TX
1/12/2009 9:02:53 AM (3153 views)
Re: 25 year searches - john franz/NJ
1/12/2009 11:21:10 AM (3020 views)
david keeling - Kevin Curtiss/AL
1/18/2009 9:46:13 PM (3239 views)
Re: david keeling - David Keeling/TX
1/26/2009 9:24:45 PM (2967 views)
Re: david keeling - Kevin Curtiss/AL
1/26/2009 10:20:22 PM (3225 views)
Re: 25 year searches - Jean Lurtsema/AK
1/12/2009 11:55:00 AM (2912 views)
Re: 25 year searches - Jean Lurtsema/AK
1/12/2009 11:58:44 AM (2943 views)
Re: 25 year searches - Robert Franco/OH
1/12/2009 12:19:13 PM (3009 views)
Secret Shopper - Clanci Nelson/OH
1/12/2009 12:56:53 PM (3033 views)
Re: 25 year searches - CHRISTIE NIELSEN/ID
1/12/2009 1:49:13 PM (2894 views)
Re: 25 year searches - PHILIP YIANILOS/VA
1/24/2009 11:05:14 AM (2924 views)
Re: 25 year searches - Tracy /PA
1/29/2009 4:02:43 PM (2908 views)

Anyone do work for NPR Services? - Debbie Thibodeaux/LA
1/8/2009 7:45:53 PM (3053 views)
Re: Anyone do work for NPR Services? - Nils Nelson/ME
1/8/2009 8:14:20 PM (3262 views)
Re: Anyone do work for NPR Services? - Debbie Thibodeaux/LA
1/9/2009 3:40:15 PM (3003 views)
Re: Anyone do work for NPR Services? - David Keeling/TX
1/12/2009 9:36:07 PM (2995 views)

Data Retrieval Services - Susan McKee/WV
1/8/2009 2:52:00 PM (3117 views)
Re: Data Retrieval Services - Jessica Talley/NJ
1/8/2009 8:26:18 PM (3041 views)
Re: Data Retrieval Services - Susan McKee/WV
1/8/2009 8:53:56 PM (3195 views)

Accurate Group- PA - Patrick/NY
1/8/2009 1:39:12 PM (3103 views)
Re: Accurate Group- PA - Samantha Martin/AL
1/12/2009 11:09:01 AM (3079 views)
Re: Accurate Group- PA - Tracy/PA
1/29/2009 4:06:04 PM (2854 views)

COMPANIES NOT TO WORK FOR - Greg Paszkiewicz/NJ
1/8/2009 11:49:41 AM (3495 views)
Re: COMPANIES NOT TO WORK FOR - Jean Lurtsema/AK
1/12/2009 11:41:40 AM (3210 views)
Re: COMPANIES NOT TO WORK FOR - Michael Vernon/AZ
1/12/2009 1:18:46 PM (3269 views)

What will you do with your $10,000 Bonus? - David Bloys/TX
1/8/2009 11:17:51 AM (2999 views)
Re: What will you do with your $10,000 Bonus? - Robert Franco/OH
1/8/2009 11:39:08 AM (3113 views)
Re: What will you do with your $10,000 Bonus? - David Bloys/TX
1/8/2009 12:12:10 PM (3005 views)
Re: What will you do with your $10,000 Bonus? - Robert Franco/OH
1/8/2009 12:49:49 PM (2914 views)
Re: What will you do with your $10,000 Bonus? - Kurt deVries/FL
1/8/2009 2:12:29 PM (2869 views)
Re: What will you do with your $10,000 Bonus? - David Bloys/TX
1/8/2009 3:53:48 PM (2699 views)
Re: What will you do with your $10,000 Bonus? - Robert Franco/OH
1/8/2009 4:01:49 PM (2642 views)
It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - Scott Perry/PA
1/8/2009 6:36:46 PM (2643 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - Slade Smith/OH
1/8/2009 8:27:20 PM (2690 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - Scott Perry/PA
1/8/2009 11:44:54 PM (2773 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - Robert Franco/OH
1/9/2009 10:41:35 AM (2745 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - Scott Perry/PA
1/9/2009 11:35:59 AM (2592 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - Robert Franco/OH
1/9/2009 1:04:37 PM (2711 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - Scott Perry/PA
1/9/2009 1:21:48 PM (2708 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - Robert Franco/OH
1/9/2009 1:48:00 PM (2571 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - Scott Perry/PA
1/9/2009 2:22:17 PM (2702 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - Robert Franco/OH
1/9/2009 2:31:29 PM (2651 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - Scott Perry/PA
1/9/2009 2:55:15 PM (2527 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - Scott Perry/PA
1/9/2009 1:37:15 PM (2549 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - Robert Franco/OH
1/9/2009 2:03:22 PM (4605 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - Scott Perry/PA
1/9/2009 2:45:46 PM (2607 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - Robert Franco/OH
1/9/2009 2:58:45 PM (4878 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - Scott Perry/PA
1/9/2009 4:32:03 PM (2659 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - john franz/NJ
1/12/2009 11:39:16 AM (2548 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - Clanci Nelson/OH
1/12/2009 1:00:19 PM (2719 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - Scott Perry/PA
1/12/2009 1:21:44 PM (2658 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - Scott Perry/PA
1/12/2009 1:17:45 PM (2680 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - Clanci Nelson/OH
1/12/2009 2:54:57 PM (2730 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - john franz/NJ
1/12/2009 3:29:50 PM (2831 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - Scott Perry/PA
1/12/2009 4:16:47 PM (5271 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - john franz/NJ
1/16/2009 3:02:53 PM (2678 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - Robert Franco/OH
1/16/2009 3:07:53 PM (2717 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - Scott Perry/PA
1/16/2009 3:09:19 PM (2623 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - Scott Perry/PA
1/16/2009 4:10:20 PM (2790 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - Scott Perry/PA
1/12/2009 4:16:48 PM (2677 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - michael quinn/NY
1/12/2009 2:59:55 PM (2664 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - john franz/NJ
1/12/2009 3:42:41 PM (2778 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - michael quinn/NY
1/12/2009 4:41:31 PM (2677 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - Scott Perry/PA
1/9/2009 1:47:25 PM (2483 views)
Re: It's All Just Smoke & Mirrors... - Jessica Talley/NJ
1/11/2009 7:55:24 PM (2532 views)
Re: What will you do with your $10,000 Bonus? - Slade Smith/OH
1/8/2009 7:59:05 PM (2631 views)
Re: What will you do with your $10,000 Bonus? - Patrick Scott/IL
1/8/2009 8:29:46 PM (2534 views)
Re: What will you do with your $10,000 Bonus? - Slade Smith/OH
1/8/2009 10:10:39 PM (2610 views)
Re: What will you do with your $10,000 Bonus? - Robert Franco/OH
1/9/2009 10:55:16 AM (2486 views)
Re: What will you do with your $10,000 Bonus? - Clanci Nelson/OH
1/9/2009 4:42:03 PM (2502 views)
Re: What will you do with your $10,000 Bonus? - john franz/NJ
1/12/2009 3:52:53 PM (2741 views)

What were they thinking... - Robert Franco/OH
1/8/2009 12:04:47 AM (3203 views)
Re: What were they thinking... - Deborah Manion/VA
1/8/2009 1:25:14 PM (3013 views)
Re: What were they thinking... - William Pattison /CA
1/12/2009 12:30:12 PM (2723 views)

Title Stream - Rich Martin/ME
1/7/2009 9:46:53 PM (3682 views)
Re: Title Stream - James "Lin" Toney/MS
1/7/2009 10:23:29 PM (3125 views)
Re: Title Stream - no relation to TS Associates - Dan Zook/NY
1/8/2009 11:32:26 AM (3152 views)

A&C Abstract (Pittsburgh, PA) - Sheila Sten/PA
1/7/2009 1:28:03 PM (3232 views)
Re: A&C Abstract (Pittsburgh, PA) - Sheila Sten/PA
1/16/2009 4:16:24 PM (2919 views)
Re: A&C Abstract (Pittsburgh, PA) - Robert Franco/OH
1/16/2009 4:19:36 PM (2897 views)
Re: A&C Abstract (Pittsburgh, PA) - Scott Perry/PA
1/16/2009 4:26:05 PM (3237 views)
Re: A&C Abstract (Pittsburgh, PA) - Sheila Sten/PA
1/16/2009 6:54:28 PM (2947 views)
Re: A&C Abstract (Pittsburgh, PA) - Patrick Scott/IL
1/16/2009 8:32:11 PM (2949 views)
Re: A&C Abstract (Pittsburgh, PA) - Sheila Sten/PA
1/16/2009 10:10:59 PM (2975 views)
Re: A&C Abstract (Pittsburgh, PA) - Scott Perry/PA
1/16/2009 10:10:57 PM (2872 views)
Re: A&C Abstract (Pittsburgh, PA) - Sheila Sten/PA
1/16/2009 10:11:46 PM (3095 views)
Re: A&C Abstract (Pittsburgh, PA) - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/17/2009 10:40:55 AM (2963 views)
Re: A&C Abstract (Pittsburgh, PA) - Robert Franco/OH
1/17/2009 12:06:43 PM (2849 views)
Re: A&C Abstract (Pittsburgh, PA) - Kevin Ahern/CT
1/17/2009 12:45:30 PM (2820 views)
Re: A&C Abstract (Pittsburgh, PA) - Sheila Sten/PA
1/17/2009 8:05:14 PM (2795 views)
Re: A&C Abstract (Pittsburgh, PA) - Clanci Nelson/OH
1/19/2009 2:13:27 PM (2810 views)
Re: A&C Abstract (Pittsburgh, PA) - Tracy/PA
1/29/2009 4:10:40 PM (2669 views)
Re: A&C Abstract (Pittsburgh, PA) - Sheila Sten/PA
2/25/2009 11:20:50 PM (2554 views)
Re: A&C Abstract (Pittsburgh, PA) - Sheila Sten/PA
4/5/2009 8:05:01 AM (2527 views)
update A&C Abstract (Pittsburgh, PA) - Sheila Sten/PA
7/30/2009 1:51:58 PM (2425 views)

scope of search beginning date - Nathan Miller/KY
1/6/2009 7:54:26 PM (3071 views)
Re: scope of search beginning date - THURBER & ASSOCIATES INC THURBER/ME
1/6/2009 9:34:28 PM (3153 views)
Start date ... - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
1/7/2009 7:55:36 AM (3201 views)
Re: scope of search beginning date - James "Lin" Toney/MS
1/7/2009 10:02:10 AM (3076 views)
Re: scope of search beginning date - Robert Franco/OH
1/7/2009 1:43:09 PM (3085 views)
Re: scope of search beginning date - Patrick Scott/IL
1/7/2009 11:06:09 PM (3160 views)

I'm in Robert's camp on this one.  I don't think there is really any need for a start date.  And, as Nathan mentioned in his original post, it could cause a recipient to question whether judgments have been searched for the proper number of years.

In my opinion, a search for open liens, whether it be a current owner, two owner, or any other limited search, should arrive at the customer showing all open liens.  This, to me, means that the abstractor searches to an acceptable point of beginning - even if it means searching back through the records of a prior owner.  It's not often around here, but we still occasionally run across an assumed mortgage. More often, I think, a mortgage recorded out of sequence.  The only exception I would place on that rule is in the event that the customer specifically requested a date to run forward.  I would then note those instructions on the search.

I am curious as to why a state's being a race-notice state would have any bearing on either your start date or your end date.  I think in most jurisdictions a lower document number would indicate priority in recording, would it not?  And, many counties, if not most or all, even stamp the time of recording on the document.  In our local counties, we use the cover date certified by the recorder.  This indicates that the recorder has posted all documents recorded up to the end of that day.  So, I guess that might be why I never have given the race-notice wrinkle any thought in that regard.  What's there is there as of the closing of the recorder's office on that given date.

As an aside, I believe that most states are now race-notice.  Illinois is one of them.  That doesn't stop the recorders in the larger counties from establishing their own recording priorities.  For example, large stacks of deeds and mortgages delivered by a title company may sit in the 'things to do eventually' basket, while a person can also walk up to the recording counter with a small number of instruments and see them recorded on the spot.  Hmmmm.

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Re: scope of search beginning date - David Keeling/TX
1/12/2009 8:57:07 PM (2717 views)
Re: scope of search beginning date - Kenneth Signor/SC
1/12/2009 8:13:11 AM (2759 views)
Re: scope of search beginning date - James "Lin" Toney/MS
1/12/2009 8:55:47 PM (2738 views)
Re: scope of search beginning date - William Pattison /CA
1/12/2009 12:14:16 PM (2904 views)
Re: scope of search beginning date - James "Lin" Toney/MS
1/12/2009 8:58:58 PM (2684 views)


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