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[-] Off the beaten path - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY (34 replies)
2/3/2009 10:36:52 PM (3220 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
2/3/2009 11:31:49 PM (3287 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Patrick Scott/IL
2/4/2009 12:01:44 AM (3252 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Scott Perry/PA
2/4/2009 12:55:17 AM (3307 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Robert Franco/OH
2/4/2009 10:42:36 AM (3230 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/4/2009 10:52:16 AM (3263 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Scott Perry/PA
2/4/2009 11:18:23 AM (3136 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Clanci Nelson/OH
2/5/2009 4:48:33 PM (3182 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Scott Perry/PA
2/5/2009 7:43:44 PM (5728 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Robert Franco/OH
2/6/2009 10:09:45 AM (2979 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Scott Perry/PA
2/6/2009 11:53:54 AM (3033 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Robert Franco/OH
2/6/2009 12:44:49 PM (2936 views)

I have looked into it and I don't think it is viable... there are too many problems.

  1. the middle class mostly spends more than they make.  We have a negative savings rate in this country.  At 30%, they would all lose out on the benefits of the graduated income tax, where the rate starts at only 10%.  Thus, most people who make between $30,000 and $200,000 would pay significantly higher taxes.  They wouldn't just pay tax on what they make, they would also pay tax on what they borrow and spend!
  2. There would certainly have to be exceptions for major purchases like homes - can you imagine what a 30% tax would do the housing market?
  3. Your crime analogy is flawed.... we would actually have more crime because those drug dealers you mention would diversify into stolen goods to be sold on the black market - with no taxes!  Just consider the bootleg cigarette market that sprung up after the cigarette tax was implemented.  And, what about all of the sales through E-bay and other online vendors - do you think they would charge a 30% tax?  Policing that would be just as burdensome as the current income tax - maybe more so.  Employers are much better at collecting income taxes than all of the vendors would be collecting sales tax.
  4. What about all of the people who have invested in Roth IRAs? They have already paid the tax on their retirement savings - they would be taxed AGAIN when they draw it out and spend it.  How is that for rewarding those that have planned for their retirement?  There is a similar problem with those who have invested in tax free muni-bonds and the like.
  5. The rich could still escape much of their tax burden by saving more - they are the only group that currently saves anything as it is.  And, if people save more, to cut their tax burden, the economy suffers.  As people spend less, the rate of the Fair Tax would be insufficient and it would have to go up - creating more of a burden on the middle class.  Those selling luxury items would be the hardest hit and many of the companies that make luxury goods would see sales decline and they would have to charge more for their products - making them even less appealing.  And, the middle class workers employed by these industries would suffer lob losses.  It would be a devastating cycle.
  6. How would the government function during economic recessions when unemployment rises and people spend less?  The Fair Tax would be much more volatile and it would make creating a balanced budget even more difficult. 

The Fair Tax is an appealing gimmick, but it is not really well thought out.  If you tried to make the Fair Tax workable and really fair - it would be just as complicated as the current income tax and it would still require a huge bureaucracy to police.

Sorry... I'm not a fan of it and I don't think we will ever see it.  If we tried it, I think we would end up trying to phase it in along side the income tax and we would end up having both.  We would never really be able to escape the income tax completely and we would just end up with two complicated tax systems.

Best,
Robert A. Franco
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Re: Off the beaten path - Scott Perry/PA
2/6/2009 1:51:09 PM (2932 views)
Still makes no sense.... - Robert Franco/OH
2/9/2009 1:09:11 PM (3183 views)
Re: Still makes no sense.... - Scott Perry/PA
2/10/2009 3:26:30 AM (2956 views)
Re: Still makes no sense.... - Robert Franco/OH
2/10/2009 9:59:16 AM (2946 views)
Re: Still makes no sense.... - Debbie Thibodeaux/LA
2/11/2009 1:07:54 PM (2890 views)
Re: Still makes no sense.... - Robert Franco/OH
2/11/2009 1:43:23 PM (2863 views)
Re: Still makes no sense.... - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/11/2009 4:48:23 PM (2903 views)
Re: Still makes no sense.... - Robert Franco/OH
2/12/2009 12:46:38 AM (2841 views)
Re: Still makes no sense.... - Douglas Gallant/OH
2/11/2009 5:06:23 PM (2884 views)
As I Was Saying... - Scott Perry/PA
2/16/2009 12:14:21 AM (2882 views)
Re: As I Was Saying... - Robert Franco/OH
2/16/2009 11:56:29 AM (2984 views)
Re: Commercial Activity Tax... - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Off the beaten path - Clanci Nelson/OH
2/6/2009 4:45:51 PM (3052 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/6/2009 6:17:30 AM (2947 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Robert Franco/OH
2/6/2009 10:03:24 AM (2962 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/4/2009 10:47:54 AM (3134 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Robert Franco/OH
2/4/2009 11:06:18 AM (2979 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/4/2009 11:10:33 AM (2926 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Scott Perry/PA
2/4/2009 11:31:26 AM (2985 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/4/2009 11:59:28 AM (3044 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Barbara Bennett/IN
2/4/2009 3:28:50 PM (2859 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Kevin Ahern/CT
2/4/2009 11:21:39 AM (2966 views)
Re: Off the beaten path - Clanci Nelson/OH
2/5/2009 4:25:01 PM (3078 views)

[+] reporting non-paying title companies to the underwriters - Michael Lanin/KY (7 replies)
2/3/2009 1:20:18 PM (3066 views)


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