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Applied Technology Resources - Debbie Thibodeaux/LA
5/8/2009 6:06:33 PM (3994 views)
Re: Applied Technology Resources - Kimberly Gray/AR
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Woman admits taking $3.4M from SP company - George Booth/OH
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Pet Peeves - Jean Allen/NC
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Re: Pet Peeves - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
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Re: Pet Peeves - Dan Zook/NY
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Re: Pet Peeves - george Hubka/MI
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Re: Pet Peeves - William Pattison /CA
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Re: Pet Peeves - Jean Allen/NC
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Re: Pet Peeves - Constance Foye/VA
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Re: Pet Peeves - Jean Allen/NC
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Re: Pet Peeves - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
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Re: Pet Peeves - george Hubka/MI
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REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - Frank NAVARRO/IL
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Re: REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - george Hubka/MI
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Re: REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - Frank NAVARRO/IL
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Re: REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - TS/WI
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Re: REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - george Hubka/MI
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Re: REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - Jean Lurtsema/AK
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Re: REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - george Hubka/MI
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Re: REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - Ellen Maher/MI
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Re: REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - george Hubka/MI
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Re: REAL SOURCE TITLE - CLOSED - Wade Briner/MN
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Fidelity/Lawyer/Commonwelath Illegal Breach of Contract - Cheryl Hartzman/PA
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Re: Fidelity/Lawyer/Commonwelath Illegal Breach of Contract - Barbara King/VA
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Re: Fidelity/Lawyer/Commonwelath Illegal Breach of Contract - george Hubka/MI
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New Clients - Mike /KS
5/3/2009 8:19:42 AM (4531 views)
Re: New Clients - monica froese/ME
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Re: New Clients - george Hubka/MI
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Re: New Clients - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: New Clients - Jessica Talley/NJ
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Re: New Clients - Dan Zook/NY
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Re: New Clients - Constance Foye/VA
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Re: New Clients - Jessica Talley/NJ
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Re: New Clients - Barbara Bennett/IN
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Re: New Clients - Jessica Talley/NJ
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Re: New Clients - martha campbell/VA
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Re: New Clients - Jessica Talley/NJ
5/11/2009 12:24:12 PM (3513 views)
Re: New Clients - martha campbell/VA
5/11/2009 3:41:38 PM (3526 views)
I did not post about .. - Barbara Bennett/IN
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Re: New Clients - Joseph Weaver/VA
5/11/2009 5:27:48 PM (3538 views)
Re: New Clients - Barbara Bennett/IN
5/8/2009 12:25:26 AM (3575 views)
Re: New Clients - Jennifer Lawrence/AR
5/11/2009 8:14:51 AM (3478 views)
Re: New Clients - Jessica Talley/NJ
5/13/2009 3:26:27 PM (3598 views)
Re: New Clients - Margaret Haddock/TN
5/11/2009 8:44:18 AM (3562 views)
Re: New Clients - Jason Knowles/AL
5/15/2009 3:36:04 PM (3529 views)
Re: New Clients - William Pattison /CA
5/28/2009 1:09:31 PM (3333 views)

Why don't we charge up front? - Patrick Ridens/CO
5/2/2009 11:34:19 PM (4745 views)
Re: Why don't we charge up front? - Chad/OR
5/3/2009 8:23:01 AM (3767 views)
Re: Why don't we charge up front? - Alix Ott/MI
5/4/2009 8:03:35 AM (3876 views)
Re: Why don't we charge up front? - Patricia Kearney/OH
8/4/2009 9:37:45 AM (3242 views)
Re: Why don't we charge up front? - William Case/TN
5/4/2009 3:20:41 PM (5715 views)

Greetings Patrick:

I do require payment at the time services are rendered with some clients.

If I get an order from someone with whom I have never dealt, and with whom I will probably never deal again, I tell them up front that upon my completion of their work they will be invoiced via PayPal and upon payment of the invoice I will forward my opinion of title.

Invariably three things happen next:

   1. They say that they have never done things that way before. I politely tell them that I understand, but that is how I work with new, out of town, clients.
   2. They then say that they do not have a PayPal account. I remind them that they do not need a PayPal account to pay via PayPal, and direct them to the PayPal site to learn more. They say they will look into it. I figure that half the time they are shopping around for someone else, but then...
   3. They call back and say they will pay via PayPal.

I have done this multiple times. Always with success.

When doing this it is important ...

   1. that you are polite and professional
   2. that you do not project an arrogant "take it or leave it" attitude
   3. that you are ready for their objections with the answers set out above

Since you are usually talking to someone lower on the food chain, and not the ultimate decision maker, remember to...

   1. Be kind, they are doing the best they can with the novel situation you have just presented.
   2. Adopt a helpful attitude and briefly educate him/her about PayPal so they can report back to their superiors knowledgeably.
   3. Point out that you are not requesting money up front. Remind them that they will only be billed upon completion of the work. Assure them that you are raring to go on their project as soon as they give you the word and "times a wastin."
   4. Do what you promise to do and send them the work immediately when they pay.

I do not do this with clients with whom I've developed a good working relationship, but I do monitor their payments carefully.

You take a certain amount of risk here by working without payment up front. However, if they do not pay you as agreed you simply do not send the work. It's better than submitting work that the unknown client uses then never pays you for.

Remember too that in the scenario I am describing, the client does not know you either. You at least take steps to alleviate their fears of the great unknown (namely, YOU) by not requiring payment until you at least purport to have done the work. Additionally, they have the hope of some recourse through PayPal for reimbursement of their payment should you utterly fail to deliver the product you invoiced them for.

There are two other things going for you right now that make it easier to take the PayPal approach I outline above:

   1. In the current fearful economic climate it is understandable for parties who do not know each other to deal with each other more cautiously, even if that means adopting new non-standard methods as long as those methods appear reasonable and secure.
   2. Over the years, in spite of its rather lame name, PayPal has come to symbolize security in internet payments between parties who do not know each other. It is the way to pay for goods and services on the internet. eBay saw this early on. That's why they acquired PayPal in a 1.3 billion dollar stock deal in 2002. A bit of PayPal’s image rubs off on you by using them. Guilt by association you know.

I hope this gives you some food for thought. As I said, I do not use PayPal across the board, but I use it frequently when the situation seems to call for it. It is one more tool for your tool box.

Sincerely,

David Case

wdavidcase.com

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Re: Why don't we charge up front? - Alix Ott/MI
5/11/2009 10:01:43 AM (3468 views)

transactional funding - Chet Mazur/CA
5/2/2009 3:32:46 PM (3792 views)
Good Luck, Dude. - Patrick Scott/IL
5/2/2009 9:49:02 PM (3468 views)
Re: Good Luck, Dude. - Thomas/FL
5/7/2009 8:07:41 PM (3435 views)
Re: Good Luck, Dude. - george Hubka/MI
5/8/2009 6:37:57 PM (3314 views)

National TitleNet - ANTHONY MUZIO/NY
5/1/2009 6:11:42 PM (3811 views)
Re: National TitleNet - Nils Nelson/ME
5/1/2009 6:50:31 PM (3677 views)
Re: National TitleNet - ANTHONY MUZIO/NY
5/1/2009 6:59:34 PM (3608 views)

Reliance Information Source (sorry) - Dan Zook/NY
5/1/2009 12:52:19 PM (3803 views)
Re: Reliance Information Source (sorry) - Nils Nelson/ME
5/1/2009 6:47:37 PM (3669 views)
Re: Reliance Information Source (sorry) - Dorothy Payne/NY
5/1/2009 7:20:07 PM (3672 views)
Thank you! - Dan Zook/NY
5/4/2009 11:12:27 AM (3407 views)

Reliant Info Source - Dan Zook/NY
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Re: Reliant Info Source - Nils Nelson/ME
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Back Forty Abstracts, LLC (Belton, SC) - Edward Huguenin/SC
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forgiving payment for services rendered in PA not a good idea - Diane Cipa/PA
4/27/2009 3:06:02 PM (6043 views)
Re: forgiving payment for services rendered in PA not a good idea - Patrick Scott/IL
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Re: forgiving payment for services rendered in PA not a good idea - Diane Cipa/PA
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Re: forgiving payment for services rendered in PA not a good idea - Patrick Scott/IL
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Re: forgiving payment for services rendered in PA not a good idea - Diane Cipa/PA
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Re: forgiving payment for services rendered in PA not a good idea - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: forgiving payment for services rendered in PA not a good idea - Diane Cipa/PA
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Re: forgiving payment for services rendered in PA not a good idea - Robert Franco/OH
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NALTEA Certified Abstractor Seminar - Jeanine Johnson/MN
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Info on Pro Title USA - george Hubka/MI
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