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time share searches in VA - Deborah Manion/VA
4/17/2009 2:15:14 PM (2879 views)
Re: time share searches in VA - Langdon Knight/MO
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Re: time share searches in VA - Angela Ward/FL
4/20/2009 1:19:27 PM (2413 views)
Re: time share searches in VA - Paula Reynolds/FL
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Abstractor Services - Thomas Haycook/OH
4/16/2009 11:01:56 AM (2823 views)

Anti-Tax Tea Parties - Helene/GA
4/15/2009 9:56:02 PM (2883 views)
Re: Anti-Tax Tea Parties - Langdon Knight/MO
4/16/2009 7:20:12 PM (2514 views)
Re: Anti-Tax Tea Parties - Helene /GA
4/16/2009 10:30:55 PM (2496 views)
Re: Anti-Tax Tea Parties - Alix Ott/MI
4/22/2009 4:42:07 PM (2346 views)
Re: Anti-Tax Tea Parties - Brad Bradbury/PA
4/23/2009 11:42:58 PM (2333 views)
Re: Anti-Tax Tea Parties - Brad Bradbury/PA
4/23/2009 11:43:48 PM (2334 views)
Re: Anti-Tax Tea Parties - Garret  Fitzgerald/VA
4/30/2009 12:21:21 PM (2287 views)
Well said... - Robert Franco/OH
4/30/2009 1:00:22 PM (2145 views)
Re: Well said... - Kurt deVries/FL
4/30/2009 2:00:13 PM (2264 views)
Re: Well said... - Robert Franco/OH
4/30/2009 2:38:53 PM (2129 views)
Re: Well said... - Garret  Fitzgerald/VA
4/30/2009 6:31:49 PM (2244 views)
Re: Well said... - Jessica Talley/NJ
4/30/2009 8:13:39 PM (2231 views)
Re: Well said... - Garret  Fitzgerald/VA
5/1/2009 1:33:29 PM (2079 views)
Re: Well said... - Vickey Olszewski/GA
4/30/2009 10:41:25 PM (2201 views)
Re: Well said... - Jessica Talley/NJ
5/1/2009 9:05:12 AM (2173 views)
Re: Well said... - Kurt deVries/FL
5/1/2009 10:43:46 AM (2068 views)
Re: Well said... - Garret  Fitzgerald/VA
5/1/2009 1:06:05 PM (2109 views)
Re: Well said... - Garret  Fitzgerald/VA
5/1/2009 1:17:21 PM (2232 views)
Re: Well said... - Scott Perry/PA
5/2/2009 11:49:06 AM (2184 views)
Re: Anti-Tax Tea Parties - Brad Bradbury/PA
4/30/2009 7:08:44 PM (2182 views)
Re: Anti-Tax Tea Parties - Garret  Fitzgerald/VA
5/1/2009 12:53:32 PM (2156 views)

PA title agents, abstractors & closers - Diane Cipa/PA
4/15/2009 4:14:59 PM (2526 views)

single source - Christine Sheeler/PA
4/14/2009 5:18:26 PM (3020 views)
Re: single source - Lance Whitmore/MN
4/15/2009 9:34:34 AM (2392 views)
Re: single source - Christine Sheeler/PA
4/19/2009 7:00:28 PM (2201 views)




Off Topic - Wish me luck! - Robert Franco/OH
4/14/2009 10:49:40 AM (2831 views)
Re: Off Topic - Wish me luck! - Dan Zook/NY
4/14/2009 1:11:38 PM (2285 views)
Re: Off Topic - Wish me luck! - Slade Smith/OH
4/14/2009 3:07:17 PM (2114 views)
Re: Off Topic - Wish me luck! - Kevin Ahern/CT
4/14/2009 5:40:06 PM (2284 views)
Re: Off Topic - Wish me luck! - Vikki Moffitt/GA
4/14/2009 5:47:28 PM (2145 views)
Re: Off Topic - Wish me luck! - James "Lin" Toney, Jr,/MS
4/14/2009 7:48:38 PM (2236 views)
Mock Trial Results... - Robert Franco/OH
4/15/2009 10:18:44 AM (2177 views)
Re: Mock Trial Results... - Kevin Ahern/CT
4/15/2009 10:37:23 AM (2132 views)
Re: Mock Trial Results... - J Nisonger/CA
4/15/2009 8:18:23 PM (2314 views)

Article: Online records access (PACER) - Dave Pell/GA
4/9/2009 9:32:16 PM (4526 views)
Re: Article: Online records access (PACER) - Robert Franco/OH
4/10/2009 10:37:19 AM (2393 views)
Re: Article: Online records access (PACER) - Dave Pell/GA
4/10/2009 1:31:32 PM (2331 views)
Re: Article: Online records access (PACER) - William Pattison /CA
4/13/2009 12:09:36 PM (2208 views)

ALTA 7 Coverage/Claim - Angela Martin/AR
4/9/2009 12:48:02 PM (2984 views)
Re: ALTA 7 Coverage/Claim - Robert Franco/OH
4/9/2009 2:56:15 PM (2807 views)
Manufactured Home vs. Mobile Home - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
4/10/2009 9:14:30 AM (2491 views)
Re: Manufactured Home vs. Mobile Home - Kevin Ahern/CT
4/10/2009 10:30:56 AM (2314 views)
Re: Manufactured Home vs. Mobile Home - george Hubka/MI
4/26/2009 3:47:17 PM (2146 views)
Re: ALTA 7 Coverage/Claim - Jeanine Johnson/FL
4/13/2009 1:29:50 PM (2133 views)

FALL THROUGHS - Ray Young/GA
4/9/2009 11:15:14 AM (2941 views)
Re: FALL THROUGHS - Wanda Steudel/OH
4/9/2009 11:35:22 AM (2427 views)
Re: FALL THROUGHS - Ray Young/GA
4/9/2009 11:44:05 AM (2319 views)
Re: FALL THROUGHS - Robert Franco/OH
4/9/2009 11:50:44 AM (2261 views)
Re: FALL THROUGHS - Diane Cipa/PA
4/9/2009 3:45:34 PM (2247 views)
Re: FALL THROUGHS - Robert Franco/OH
4/9/2009 6:13:59 PM (2241 views)
Re: FALL THROUGHS - Diane Cipa/PA
4/10/2009 8:55:57 AM (2202 views)
Re: FALL THROUGHS - Robert Franco/OH
4/10/2009 10:24:49 AM (2241 views)
Re: FALL THROUGHS - Diane Cipa/PA
4/13/2009 4:57:41 PM (2184 views)
Re: FALL THROUGHS - Helene /GA
4/9/2009 10:43:09 PM (2177 views)
Re: FALL THROUGHS - Jean Lurtsema/AK
4/13/2009 11:28:46 AM (2035 views)

NORTHERN UNITED TITLE SERV GONE - James Badertscher/OH
4/8/2009 12:37:31 PM (2905 views)
Re: NORTHERN UNITED TITLE SERV GONE - Kevin Ahern/CT
4/8/2009 1:29:32 PM (2395 views)
Re: NORTHERN UNITED TITLE SERV GONE - Robert Franco/OH
4/8/2009 2:37:12 PM (2388 views)
Re: NORTHERN UNITED TITLE SERV GONE - Kevin Ahern/CT
4/9/2009 10:11:08 AM (2453 views)

Piercing the corporate veil is very difficult even in a "mom and pop" business. Limiting liability is the purpose for which corporations are formed. I would think that you would have to show that there was some impropriety such as commingling of funds or that somehow the corporation was no more than an alter ego for the principal.

Fraud is not easy to prove. I read a bankruptcy case a while back in which the debtor had passed a bad check to one of its creditors in exchange for services. The debtor had issued the check in the hope of covering it with funds it had not yet received. The funds never arrived, and the check bounced. Fraud is a defense to a bankruptcy and a basis to object to the debtor's discharge. The creditor in this case did in fact object on that basis, and further argued that the bounced check was a criminal act. Surprisingly the bankruptcy court disagreed. It ruled that the debtor's honest belief that it was to receive the funds to cover the check did not constitute fraud...simply bad business judgment.

In Connecticut tortious fraud has a higher burden of proof that most other civil cases. The usual standard in civil cases is proof by a preponderance of the evidence. In fraud cases Connecticut requires proof by clear and convincing evidence.

I litigated a fraud case several years ago in which the buyer of real estate inspected the property, and saw that on the listing card the septic system was designated "unknown". He asked the real estate agent what "unknown " meant. The real estate agent said that it meant that it is working fine, but that its location was not known. He bought the property. A year later he decided to have the septic tank pumped. He was informed that he had no septic tank. Instead he had a cess pool in a small cave on the property. The property bordered on a lake. When the cess pool was filled the waste would overflow, and roll down the hill into the lake where neighbors swam and fished.

I took the realtor's deposition, and subpoenaed her records. In her file I found hand written notes in which the realtor had written "new pipes to the septic". She had done a search of the Town sanitarian's office, and could not determine the presence of a septic system. She should have made her findings more clear. I also found out that she was getting a full 6% fee on the sale without having to split it with another real estate agent. The house had also been on the market for a long time in a down market, and had been tough to sell.

In tortious fraud cases you can sometimes prove fraudulent intent in the same manner as in criminal cases. Motive and opportunity equal intent. We had the full fee as the motive. We had her selling efforts in a buyer's market as the opportunity. We had her representation of "Septic Unknown" on the listing. We had her notes indicating "New Pipes to the Septic" when in fact there was no septic tank. We had the testimony of the town sanitarian that there was no septic system and the realtor's testimony that she has consulted him. The court ruled that this was not proof by clear and convincing evidence, and that her conduct did not rise to the level of a fraud.

There may be other avenues to litigate other than piercing the corporate veil....examining to see if there was an agent for an undisclosed principal is very easy with the right fact pattern. Unfair trade practices (such as doing business under an unregistered trade name) is another possibility. Unfair trade practices is more liberal that tortious fraud in terms of the burden of proof. In Connecticut intent is not an element that needs to be proved. It also has a nice recovery...triple damages and attorney's fees.

 

 

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Re: NORTHERN UNITED TITLE SERV GONE - James Badertscher/OH
4/8/2009 2:53:31 PM (2360 views)
Re: NORTHERN UNITED TITLE SERV GONE - Kevin Ahern/CT
4/9/2009 9:01:14 AM (2268 views)
Re: NORTHERN UNITED TITLE SERV GONE - Diane Cipa/PA
4/9/2009 3:49:39 PM (2217 views)
Re: NORTHERN UNITED TITLE SERV GONE - James Badertscher/OH
4/15/2009 12:56:01 PM (2112 views)
Re: NORTHERN UNITED TITLE SERV GONE - Kevin Ahern/CT
4/15/2009 3:54:05 PM (2091 views)

A.S.K Services, Inc. - Edward Huguenin/SC
4/8/2009 4:36:11 AM (3125 views)
Re: A.S.K Services, Inc. - Smitty Strickland/SC
4/8/2009 9:56:01 AM (2686 views)
Re: A.S.K Services, Inc. - Robert Franco/OH
4/8/2009 10:27:58 AM (2676 views)
Re: A.S.K Services, Inc. - Edward Huguenin/SC
4/8/2009 11:12:58 AM (2437 views)
Re: A.S.K Services, Inc. - Smitty Strickland/SC
4/8/2009 4:25:10 PM (2474 views)
Re: A.S.K Services, Inc. - Stephanie /SC
4/8/2009 10:30:39 PM (2503 views)
Re: A.S.K Services, Inc. - Allen Wion/SC
4/13/2009 6:33:24 AM (2420 views)
Re: A.S.K Services, Inc. - Edward Huguenin/SC
4/13/2009 6:59:24 AM (2535 views)
Re: A.S.K Services, Inc. - Janis Talbot/SC
4/13/2009 8:51:02 AM (2468 views)

Mortgage fraud always surprises me.. - Diane Cipa/PA
4/7/2009 11:32:29 AM (2239 views)

Settlement Abstract -Brooklyn NY - Patrick/NY
4/7/2009 11:08:55 AM (2593 views)
Re: Settlement Abstract -Brooklyn NY - george Hubka/MI
4/26/2009 4:06:37 PM (2195 views)
Re: Settlement Abstract -Brooklyn NY - Patrick/NY
4/27/2009 8:36:59 AM (2152 views)

Reverse Mortgages and Mortgage Taxes - Jonathan  Cohen/MI
4/7/2009 10:19:45 AM (2686 views)
Re: Reverse Mortgages and Mortgage Taxes - Sandra Morton/KS
4/7/2009 3:13:34 PM (2357 views)
Re: Reverse Mortgages and Mortgage Taxes - Jonathan  Cohen/MI
4/9/2009 11:47:04 AM (2277 views)
Re: Reverse Mortgages and Mortgage Taxes - Robert Franco/OH
4/7/2009 3:17:11 PM (2416 views)
Re: Reverse Mortgages and Mortgage Taxes - Jonathan  Cohen/MI
4/9/2009 11:49:30 AM (2224 views)
Re: Reverse Mortgages and Mortgage Taxes - Jonathan  Cohen/MI
4/14/2009 9:25:34 AM (2091 views)

Ameristar - Sybil East/GA
4/6/2009 7:05:17 PM (3116 views)
Re: Ameristar - Patrick/NY
4/7/2009 8:26:48 AM (2695 views)
Re: Ameristar - David Pool/TX
4/10/2009 3:54:04 PM (2583 views)
Re: Ameristar - Robert Franco/OH
4/10/2009 4:02:32 PM (2567 views)
Re: Ameristar - Kevin Ahern/CT
4/11/2009 5:18:50 AM (2455 views)
Re: Ameristar - Sybil East/GA
4/13/2009 8:45:37 AM (2449 views)
Re: Ameristar - David Keeling/TX
4/13/2009 8:50:13 AM (2536 views)
Re: Ameristar - Alix Ott/MI
4/13/2009 9:26:06 AM (2452 views)
Re: Ameristar - Gina/VA
4/22/2009 2:30:41 PM (2349 views)
Re: Ameristar - Jean Lurtsema/AK
4/20/2009 11:33:24 AM (2322 views)
Re: Ameristar - Non Paying - jess barker/IL
4/16/2009 9:53:08 AM (2479 views)
Re: Ameristar - David Keeling/TX
4/20/2009 8:57:17 AM (2416 views)


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