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Fradulent use of my company name - PATRICIA PALMER-ILKO/PA
9/18/2009 9:40:15 AM (4173 views)
Re: Fradulent use of my company name - Robert Franco/OH
9/18/2009 9:56:00 AM (5225 views)
Re: Fradulent use of my company name - PATRICIA PALMER-ILKO/PA
9/18/2009 10:48:18 AM (5221 views)
Re: Fradulent use of my company name - Jessica Talley/NJ
9/18/2009 4:16:48 PM (5087 views)
Re: Fradulent use of my company name - george Hubka/MI
9/18/2009 4:49:47 PM (5062 views)
Re: Fradulent use of my company name - george Hubka/MI
9/18/2009 4:47:03 PM (5067 views)
Re: Fradulent use of my company name - PATRICIA PALMER-ILKO/PA
9/18/2009 7:27:20 PM (5139 views)
Re: Fradulent use of my company name - george Hubka/MI
9/18/2009 8:53:36 PM (4986 views)
Re: Fradulent use of my company name - Sheila Sten/PA
9/27/2009 8:53:04 PM (4689 views)
Re: Fradulent use of my company name - george Hubka/MI
9/28/2009 4:39:24 AM (4780 views)
Re: Fradulent use of my company name - William Pattison /CA
9/28/2009 11:46:58 AM (4774 views)

2 owner search fees in Michigan - Ellen Maher/MI
9/16/2009 10:14:01 AM (4152 views)
Re: 2 owner search fees in Michigan - george Hubka/MI
9/17/2009 5:54:26 AM (4877 views)
Re: 2 owner search fees in Michigan - Ellen Maher/MI
9/18/2009 10:19:21 AM (4962 views)
Re: 2 owner search fees in Michigan - george Hubka/MI
9/18/2009 4:41:48 PM (4919 views)
Re: 2 owner search fees in Michigan - Ellen Maher/MI
9/21/2009 10:40:30 AM (4798 views)

A Sign of the Times - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/15/2009 4:51:47 PM (3427 views)

FANNIE MAE and FREDDIE MAC VIOLATING RESPA - Robert Franco/OH
9/15/2009 10:18:09 AM (4628 views)
Re: FANNIE MAE and FREDDIE MAC VIOLATING RESPA - Robert Franco/OH
9/15/2009 11:02:12 AM (7764 views)
Re: FANNIE MAE and FREDDIE MAC VIOLATING RESPA - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
9/15/2009 11:35:26 AM (4966 views)
And that is the problem... - Robert Franco/OH
9/15/2009 11:52:07 AM (4696 views)

Condo Owner finds out he's been living in and renovating wrong unit - Edward Huguenin/SC
9/13/2009 11:12:30 PM (5388 views)
Re: Condo Owner finds out he's been living in and renovating wrong unit - Robert Franco/OH
9/14/2009 9:15:33 AM (5238 views)
Re: Condo Owner finds out he's been living in and renovating wrong unit - edward hartung/OH
9/14/2009 7:17:17 PM (5045 views)
Re: Condo Owner finds out he's been living in and renovating wrong unit - Robert Franco/OH
9/15/2009 9:25:34 AM (4759 views)




E & O Info: Thanks Robert! - Scott Olsen/NH
9/11/2009 10:47:44 AM (3986 views)
Re: E & O Info: Thanks Robert! - Robert Franco/OH
9/11/2009 11:12:53 AM (5287 views)
Re: E & O Info: Thanks Robert! - Nils Nelson/ME
9/11/2009 12:45:19 PM (5151 views)
Re: E & O Info: Thanks Robert! - george Hubka/MI
9/14/2009 8:07:06 AM (5049 views)

County Clerk Fees - Ellen Maher/MI
9/11/2009 9:51:20 AM (3877 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - Robert Franco/OH
9/11/2009 10:00:56 AM (5160 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - Ellen Maher/MI
9/11/2009 12:07:24 PM (5230 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - Nils Nelson/ME
9/11/2009 12:52:53 PM (5047 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/11/2009 1:16:29 PM (4990 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - Ellen Maher/MI
9/11/2009 1:55:10 PM (4978 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - george Hubka/MI
9/14/2009 8:00:51 AM (4986 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - Dan Zook/NY
9/14/2009 10:14:25 AM (5020 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - William Pattison /CA
9/14/2009 11:41:23 AM (4975 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - Brad Bradbury/PA
9/14/2009 1:50:04 PM (5016 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - Jessica Talley/NJ
9/14/2009 3:24:07 PM (4953 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - Dan Zook/NY
9/15/2009 8:54:35 AM (4747 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - Jessica Talley/NJ
9/15/2009 9:51:04 AM (4764 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - Dan Zook/NY
9/15/2009 10:18:14 AM (4603 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - Nils Nelson/ME
9/14/2009 11:56:07 AM (4809 views)

Unied States Title Corp Knoxville TN - Louise Jackson/SC
9/10/2009 9:12:43 AM (4935 views)
Re: Unied States Title Corp Knoxville TN - Brenda Palmer/TN
9/14/2009 3:21:28 AM (5400 views)
Re: Unied States Title Corp Knoxville TN - george Hubka/MI
9/14/2009 8:03:11 AM (5108 views)
Re: Unied States Title Corp Knoxville TN - Jennifer/AR
9/14/2009 10:24:12 AM (5094 views)
Re: Unied States Title Corp Knoxville TN - Virginia Capps/TN
9/14/2009 11:16:16 AM (5094 views)
Re: Unied States Title Corp Knoxville TN - Angela Johnson/NC
2/17/2011 4:48:27 PM (4648 views)
Re: Unied States Title Corp Knoxville TN - Rick Wilkinson/TN
8/8/2011 10:27:38 AM (4298 views)

MSNi - Constance Foye/VA
9/9/2009 9:04:37 PM (4779 views)
Re: MSNi - Kelli Quade/MO
9/10/2009 3:28:14 PM (4945 views)
Re: MSNi - george Hubka/MI
9/11/2009 7:03:50 AM (4926 views)
Re: MSNi - Constance Foye/VA
9/14/2009 12:30:14 PM (4855 views)

Pro-Search, Inc. - Susan McKee/WV
9/9/2009 10:51:23 AM (4505 views)
Re: Pro-Search, Inc. - Elizabeth Helman/PA
9/12/2009 9:22:14 PM (5673 views)

ALTA Policy Licensing Fees - Cheryl Hartzman/PA
9/4/2009 2:41:01 PM (5686 views)
Re: ALTA Policy Licensing Fees - Robert Franco/OH
9/8/2009 1:45:36 PM (5163 views)
Re: ALTA Policy Licensing Fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/8/2009 5:09:20 PM (5020 views)
Re: ALTA Policy Licensing Fees - Robert Franco/OH
9/9/2009 8:06:24 AM (5048 views)
Re: ALTA Policy Licensing Fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/9/2009 8:41:47 AM (4994 views)
Re: ALTA Policy Licensing Fees - Robert Franco/OH
9/9/2009 8:58:17 AM (4968 views)

J&L in TX - LAWANDA  MCMILLIAN/AR
9/3/2009 9:34:26 PM (3193 views)

Accepting Credit Cards - Dan Zook/NY
9/3/2009 1:07:29 PM (3820 views)
Re: Accepting Credit Cards - Dan Zook/NY
9/8/2009 11:22:53 AM (4990 views)
Re: Accepting Credit Cards - Michelle White/IL
9/8/2009 12:35:21 PM (5171 views)
Re: Accepting Credit Cards - Robert Franco/OH
9/8/2009 1:52:47 PM (5101 views)
Re: Accepting Credit Cards - Jessica Obitz/MD
9/15/2009 8:32:35 AM (4641 views)
Re: Accepting Credit Cards - Dan Zook/NY
9/15/2009 8:58:54 AM (4624 views)

Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Eric Michaels/IL
9/3/2009 1:03:46 AM (4016 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Clanci Nelson/OH
9/10/2009 3:53:48 PM (5024 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
9/15/2009 2:24:40 PM (5051 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Eric Michaels/IL
9/17/2009 1:54:39 PM (6474 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Robert Franco/OH
9/17/2009 4:24:02 PM (4926 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
9/17/2009 7:58:09 PM (5033 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Eric Michaels/IL
9/18/2009 1:18:49 AM (5055 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Robert Franco/OH
9/18/2009 9:27:37 AM (4881 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - george Hubka/MI
9/18/2009 4:59:39 PM (4879 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Robert Franco/OH
9/18/2009 6:51:17 PM (4843 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - george Hubka/MI
9/18/2009 8:57:45 PM (4888 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Eric Michaels/IL
9/19/2009 11:59:07 PM (4896 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Robert Franco/OH
9/21/2009 12:11:37 PM (4950 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Clanci Nelson/OH
9/21/2009 1:11:33 PM (5009 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Clanci Nelson/OH
9/21/2009 1:08:37 PM (4960 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Clanci Nelson/OH
9/21/2009 12:35:50 PM (4874 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Eric Michaels/IL
9/18/2009 1:24:49 AM (4913 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Clanci Nelson/OH
9/21/2009 1:50:13 PM (4939 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Robert Franco/OH
9/21/2009 2:08:51 PM (5153 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Eric Michaels/IL
9/22/2009 12:30:13 PM (5226 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Robert Franco/OH
9/22/2009 1:18:21 PM (4995 views)

Yes... probably best to let it drop.  If you want to get involved in these types of transactions, go for it.  I'm not telling you what to do.  I'm just saying that, from a title agents perspective, it is a land flip that most knowledgeable title agents will not want to get involved with.

You clearly do not understand there is substantively no difference between B using the proceeds from C to buy property from A... AND... B borrowing money from YOU to buy the property from A with the requirement that the proceeds from the sale to C must be used to pay YOU.  Clearly, with that kind of requirement the A/B transaction is dependent upon the B/C transaction.  The A/B transaction cannot stand alone because you wouldn't loan the money without the B/C transaction already lined up and ready to go.

You need to re-read your post:

The agreement is that this money is used to fund the A-B and then paid back plus fee in the B-C transaction.  If the B-C transaction falls apart for some reason, the title company nullifies the A-B.

"If the B/C transaction falls apart - the title company nullifies the A/B transaction" - This does not describe a "stand alone transaction."  The A/B transaction necessarily depends on the B/C transaction!  A title agent would have to be nuts to agree to close that transaction.  It is clearly a land flip with all of the badges of fraud that land agents in the middle of federal investigations.  It is precisely the type of transaction that we are trained to spot and avoid. 

You clearly have a dollar signs blinding your vision - you want to loan someone money with a large fee FOR ONE DAY!  Like most get-rich-quick schemes, if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. 

Clanci was clearly correct, you are taking her statement out of context.  Though, perhaps what she should have said in response to your comment ("no one here has experience...and some people have irrational fears") was "It is not fear that prevents us from not doing these transactions, nor is it a lack of experience.  It is past experiences and the laws that govern our business that we follow.”

I don't know how I could make this any more clear... you just don't want to understand.  Clearly you recognize that "each closing has to stand on it's own."  Then you want to contractually obligate the title agent to "nullify" the first transaction if the second deal falls through.  By your own words, the first transaction is dependent on the second transaction, i.e., it does not stand alone.  Your contract would make the title agent a party to a land flip.  Any agent worth his salt would send you packing.

You said:

I didn't really ask for your opinion, I asked for facts about the title business.  But you guys are having difficulty getting the basic facts of my question straight.

You got what you asked for... "My question is just about the details of this contract between the Title Co and the Trans Lender. How is this done exactly?"  You were told that the way you want to structure this deal meets the definition of a land flip and our professional opinion is that we would not get involved.  It is you that does not understand the "basic facts" of your question.  The facts you presented contemplate that the A/B transaction cannot stand alone, yet you insist that it is a stand alone transaction.  You can't have it both ways!    If the A/B transaction is "nullified" if the B/C transaction falls through, it does not stand alone no matter how many times you call it "a stand alone transaction!" 

I'm sorry you didn't like the answer you got.  You are free to go elsewhere and seek other opinions.  Sooner or later you will find someone who doesn't understand land flips and you will get a more favorable response.  Just don't say you weren't warned.

Best,
Robert A. Franco
SOURCE OF TITLE

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Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Clanci Nelson/OH
10/12/2009 12:28:55 PM (5033 views)

selling searches - edward hartung/OH
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Re: selling searches - shori ferrell/MO
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