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Beaver County Abstract (& Notary Services) - PATRICIA PALMER-ILKO/PA
9/18/2009 7:28:31 PM (3793 views)

Fradulent use of my company name - PATRICIA PALMER-ILKO/PA
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Re: Fradulent use of my company name - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Fradulent use of my company name - PATRICIA PALMER-ILKO/PA
9/18/2009 10:48:18 AM (4922 views)
Re: Fradulent use of my company name - Jessica Talley/NJ
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Re: Fradulent use of my company name - george Hubka/MI
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Re: Fradulent use of my company name - george Hubka/MI
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Re: Fradulent use of my company name - PATRICIA PALMER-ILKO/PA
9/18/2009 7:27:20 PM (4810 views)
Re: Fradulent use of my company name - george Hubka/MI
9/18/2009 8:53:36 PM (4690 views)
Re: Fradulent use of my company name - Sheila Sten/PA
9/27/2009 8:53:04 PM (4385 views)
Re: Fradulent use of my company name - george Hubka/MI
9/28/2009 4:39:24 AM (4454 views)
Re: Fradulent use of my company name - William Pattison /CA
9/28/2009 11:46:58 AM (4462 views)

2 owner search fees in Michigan - Ellen Maher/MI
9/16/2009 10:14:01 AM (4034 views)
Re: 2 owner search fees in Michigan - george Hubka/MI
9/17/2009 5:54:26 AM (4529 views)
Re: 2 owner search fees in Michigan - Ellen Maher/MI
9/18/2009 10:19:21 AM (4623 views)
Re: 2 owner search fees in Michigan - george Hubka/MI
9/18/2009 4:41:48 PM (4557 views)
Re: 2 owner search fees in Michigan - Ellen Maher/MI
9/21/2009 10:40:30 AM (4454 views)

A Sign of the Times - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/15/2009 4:51:47 PM (3302 views)

FANNIE MAE and FREDDIE MAC VIOLATING RESPA - Robert Franco/OH
9/15/2009 10:18:09 AM (4511 views)
Re: FANNIE MAE and FREDDIE MAC VIOLATING RESPA - Robert Franco/OH
9/15/2009 11:02:12 AM (7414 views)
Re: FANNIE MAE and FREDDIE MAC VIOLATING RESPA - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
9/15/2009 11:35:26 AM (4630 views)
And that is the problem... - Robert Franco/OH
9/15/2009 11:52:07 AM (4390 views)


Real Title Services


Condo Owner finds out he's been living in and renovating wrong unit - Edward Huguenin/SC
9/13/2009 11:12:30 PM (5244 views)
Re: Condo Owner finds out he's been living in and renovating wrong unit - Robert Franco/OH
9/14/2009 9:15:33 AM (4894 views)
Re: Condo Owner finds out he's been living in and renovating wrong unit - edward hartung/OH
9/14/2009 7:17:17 PM (4681 views)
Re: Condo Owner finds out he's been living in and renovating wrong unit - Robert Franco/OH
9/15/2009 9:25:34 AM (4429 views)

E & O Info: Thanks Robert! - Scott Olsen/NH
9/11/2009 10:47:44 AM (3852 views)
Re: E & O Info: Thanks Robert! - Robert Franco/OH
9/11/2009 11:12:53 AM (4969 views)
Re: E & O Info: Thanks Robert! - Nils Nelson/ME
9/11/2009 12:45:19 PM (4805 views)
Re: E & O Info: Thanks Robert! - george Hubka/MI
9/14/2009 8:07:06 AM (4699 views)

County Clerk Fees - Ellen Maher/MI
9/11/2009 9:51:20 AM (3766 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - Robert Franco/OH
9/11/2009 10:00:56 AM (4816 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - Ellen Maher/MI
9/11/2009 12:07:24 PM (4915 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - Nils Nelson/ME
9/11/2009 12:52:53 PM (4727 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/11/2009 1:16:29 PM (4678 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - Ellen Maher/MI
9/11/2009 1:55:10 PM (4636 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - george Hubka/MI
9/14/2009 8:00:51 AM (4673 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - Dan Zook/NY
9/14/2009 10:14:25 AM (4679 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - William Pattison /CA
9/14/2009 11:41:23 AM (4620 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - Brad Bradbury/PA
9/14/2009 1:50:04 PM (4656 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - Jessica Talley/NJ
9/14/2009 3:24:07 PM (4593 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - Dan Zook/NY
9/15/2009 8:54:35 AM (4387 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - Jessica Talley/NJ
9/15/2009 9:51:04 AM (4399 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - Dan Zook/NY
9/15/2009 10:18:14 AM (4267 views)
Re: County Clerk Fees - Nils Nelson/ME
9/14/2009 11:56:07 AM (4486 views)

Unied States Title Corp Knoxville TN - Louise Jackson/SC
9/10/2009 9:12:43 AM (4813 views)
Re: Unied States Title Corp Knoxville TN - Brenda Palmer/TN
9/14/2009 3:21:28 AM (5057 views)
Re: Unied States Title Corp Knoxville TN - george Hubka/MI
9/14/2009 8:03:11 AM (4785 views)
Re: Unied States Title Corp Knoxville TN - Jennifer/AR
9/14/2009 10:24:12 AM (4755 views)
Re: Unied States Title Corp Knoxville TN - Virginia Capps/TN
9/14/2009 11:16:16 AM (4763 views)
Re: Unied States Title Corp Knoxville TN - Angela Johnson/NC
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Re: Unied States Title Corp Knoxville TN - Rick Wilkinson/TN
8/8/2011 10:27:38 AM (3973 views)

MSNi - Constance Foye/VA
9/9/2009 9:04:37 PM (4672 views)
Re: MSNi - Kelli Quade/MO
9/10/2009 3:28:14 PM (4658 views)
Re: MSNi - george Hubka/MI
9/11/2009 7:03:50 AM (4648 views)
Re: MSNi - Constance Foye/VA
9/14/2009 12:30:14 PM (4535 views)

Pro-Search, Inc. - Susan McKee/WV
9/9/2009 10:51:23 AM (4377 views)
Re: Pro-Search, Inc. - Elizabeth Helman/PA
9/12/2009 9:22:14 PM (5371 views)

ALTA Policy Licensing Fees - Cheryl Hartzman/PA
9/4/2009 2:41:01 PM (5556 views)
Re: ALTA Policy Licensing Fees - Robert Franco/OH
9/8/2009 1:45:36 PM (4862 views)
Re: ALTA Policy Licensing Fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/8/2009 5:09:20 PM (4758 views)
Re: ALTA Policy Licensing Fees - Robert Franco/OH
9/9/2009 8:06:24 AM (4743 views)
Re: ALTA Policy Licensing Fees - Kevin Ahern/CT
9/9/2009 8:41:47 AM (4724 views)
Re: ALTA Policy Licensing Fees - Robert Franco/OH
9/9/2009 8:58:17 AM (4676 views)

J&L in TX - LAWANDA  MCMILLIAN/AR
9/3/2009 9:34:26 PM (3127 views)

Accepting Credit Cards - Dan Zook/NY
9/3/2009 1:07:29 PM (3719 views)
Re: Accepting Credit Cards - Dan Zook/NY
9/8/2009 11:22:53 AM (4706 views)
Re: Accepting Credit Cards - Michelle White/IL
9/8/2009 12:35:21 PM (4838 views)
Re: Accepting Credit Cards - Robert Franco/OH
9/8/2009 1:52:47 PM (4770 views)
Re: Accepting Credit Cards - Jessica Obitz/MD
9/15/2009 8:32:35 AM (4339 views)
Re: Accepting Credit Cards - Dan Zook/NY
9/15/2009 8:58:54 AM (4320 views)

Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Eric Michaels/IL
9/3/2009 1:03:46 AM (3906 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Clanci Nelson/OH
9/10/2009 3:53:48 PM (4669 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
9/15/2009 2:24:40 PM (4687 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Eric Michaels/IL
9/17/2009 1:54:39 PM (6048 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Robert Franco/OH
9/17/2009 4:24:02 PM (4587 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
9/17/2009 7:58:09 PM (4687 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Eric Michaels/IL
9/18/2009 1:18:49 AM (4682 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Robert Franco/OH
9/18/2009 9:27:37 AM (4513 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - george Hubka/MI
9/18/2009 4:59:39 PM (4521 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Robert Franco/OH
9/18/2009 6:51:17 PM (4493 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - george Hubka/MI
9/18/2009 8:57:45 PM (4544 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Eric Michaels/IL
9/19/2009 11:59:07 PM (4531 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Robert Franco/OH
9/21/2009 12:11:37 PM (4574 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Clanci Nelson/OH
9/21/2009 1:11:33 PM (4632 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Clanci Nelson/OH
9/21/2009 1:08:37 PM (4599 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Clanci Nelson/OH
9/21/2009 12:35:50 PM (4493 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Eric Michaels/IL
9/18/2009 1:24:49 AM (4552 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Clanci Nelson/OH
9/21/2009 1:50:13 PM (4619 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Robert Franco/OH
9/21/2009 2:08:51 PM (4799 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Eric Michaels/IL
9/22/2009 12:30:13 PM (4844 views)
Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Robert Franco/OH
9/22/2009 1:18:21 PM (4641 views)

Yes... probably best to let it drop.  If you want to get involved in these types of transactions, go for it.  I'm not telling you what to do.  I'm just saying that, from a title agents perspective, it is a land flip that most knowledgeable title agents will not want to get involved with.

You clearly do not understand there is substantively no difference between B using the proceeds from C to buy property from A... AND... B borrowing money from YOU to buy the property from A with the requirement that the proceeds from the sale to C must be used to pay YOU.  Clearly, with that kind of requirement the A/B transaction is dependent upon the B/C transaction.  The A/B transaction cannot stand alone because you wouldn't loan the money without the B/C transaction already lined up and ready to go.

You need to re-read your post:

The agreement is that this money is used to fund the A-B and then paid back plus fee in the B-C transaction.  If the B-C transaction falls apart for some reason, the title company nullifies the A-B.

"If the B/C transaction falls apart - the title company nullifies the A/B transaction" - This does not describe a "stand alone transaction."  The A/B transaction necessarily depends on the B/C transaction!  A title agent would have to be nuts to agree to close that transaction.  It is clearly a land flip with all of the badges of fraud that land agents in the middle of federal investigations.  It is precisely the type of transaction that we are trained to spot and avoid. 

You clearly have a dollar signs blinding your vision - you want to loan someone money with a large fee FOR ONE DAY!  Like most get-rich-quick schemes, if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. 

Clanci was clearly correct, you are taking her statement out of context.  Though, perhaps what she should have said in response to your comment ("no one here has experience...and some people have irrational fears") was "It is not fear that prevents us from not doing these transactions, nor is it a lack of experience.  It is past experiences and the laws that govern our business that we follow.”

I don't know how I could make this any more clear... you just don't want to understand.  Clearly you recognize that "each closing has to stand on it's own."  Then you want to contractually obligate the title agent to "nullify" the first transaction if the second deal falls through.  By your own words, the first transaction is dependent on the second transaction, i.e., it does not stand alone.  Your contract would make the title agent a party to a land flip.  Any agent worth his salt would send you packing.

You said:

I didn't really ask for your opinion, I asked for facts about the title business.  But you guys are having difficulty getting the basic facts of my question straight.

You got what you asked for... "My question is just about the details of this contract between the Title Co and the Trans Lender. How is this done exactly?"  You were told that the way you want to structure this deal meets the definition of a land flip and our professional opinion is that we would not get involved.  It is you that does not understand the "basic facts" of your question.  The facts you presented contemplate that the A/B transaction cannot stand alone, yet you insist that it is a stand alone transaction.  You can't have it both ways!    If the A/B transaction is "nullified" if the B/C transaction falls through, it does not stand alone no matter how many times you call it "a stand alone transaction!" 

I'm sorry you didn't like the answer you got.  You are free to go elsewhere and seek other opinions.  Sooner or later you will find someone who doesn't understand land flips and you will get a more favorable response.  Just don't say you weren't warned.

Best,
Robert A. Franco
SOURCE OF TITLE

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Re: Experience closing short sales w/transactional funding? - Clanci Nelson/OH
10/12/2009 12:28:55 PM (4694 views)


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