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NY - Deed Transfers - lost titles - Clanci Nelson/OH
7/16/2009 4:03:33 PM (3070 views)

[+] I'm Curious - AbstractorWatchdog com/NY (6 replies)
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[+] Working with Service Link - Ken Ungarsohn/NJ (4 replies)
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[+] eTitle or e-Title - Alix Ott/MI (2 replies)
7/10/2009 4:38:00 PM (4044 views)

[+] E + O insurance + realtors - CHRISTIE NIELSEN/ID (3 replies)
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[+] E&O - Co. says I have to match THEIR insurance - Alix Ott/MI (21 replies)
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[+] Twitter - Heather Seymour/IN (3 replies)
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[+] US Land Title, LLC - Serena Stout/VA (1 reply)
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[+] how much work going on out there - Threasa Davis/KY (12 replies)
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[+] Kensington - Dan Zook/NY (2 replies)
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[+] can someone post Michael J's will - Cyril Gonzales, III/LA (10 replies)
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[+] Has anyone else been asked to d this? - NANCY WALLACE/NJ (15 replies)
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[+] LandAmerica - Smitty Strickland/SC (20 replies)
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[+] Question - Laurie E/MD (1 reply)
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[-] mineral/oil/gas liability - Nathan Miller/KY (4 replies)
6/29/2009 5:05:45 PM (4001 views)
Re: mineral/oil/gas liability - Ray Young/GA
6/30/2009 8:58:25 AM (4008 views)
Re: mineral/oil/gas liability - Jeanine Johnson/MN
6/30/2009 2:23:25 PM (3839 views)
Re: mineral/oil/gas liability - Alix Ott/MI
6/30/2009 5:57:19 PM (3941 views)

Nathan:  AT LEAST YOU AND THE OTHER ABSTRACTORS WHO HAVE COMMENTED HERE ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND THE DANGER!  Jeez, I'm tired of telling title companies how much liability they're taking on when they start talking mineral rights.

I'm actually a Landman (oil/gas title person) and a mortgage-end-of-the-business abstractor.  Having run title for oil/gas in your state (and WV and PA and my own state of Michigan) I urge you in no uncertain terms to explain that if they want a mineral rights and/or oil/gas rights (sometimes those are wrapped in with minerals; sometimes not -- depends on the state), they should contact a Landman.  The search fee could be VERY high depending on the difficulty.  (Landmen often do entire sections back to patent, listing all documents along the way, and those projects can cost tens of thousands of dollars.)  Please do NOT do oil/gas/mineral searches unless you have someone experienced in your state explain the pitfalls.  Some mortgage abstract people can never make the switch to thinking in multiple layers, but I believe any good mortgage abstractor can switch to minerals with just a little extra training.  (Landmen tend to be a bit prissy about their abilities.)

I have a two page letter explaining in excruciating detail why a mortgage/title company should not insure for minerals when they're really only dealing with the surface.  It does lean towards Michigan (which has a 20 year dormancy law), but it is pretty generic and you're welcome to plagiarize it.  Please e-mail me directly at           oily@ArgentTitleResearch.com

Alix

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Re: mineral/oil/gas liability - GARY IMES/WV
7/6/2009 12:55:09 PM (3920 views)


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