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how much work going on out there - Threasa Davis/KY
7/7/2009 10:23:42 AM (3853 views)
Re: how much work going on out there - Robert Franco/OH
7/7/2009 10:34:53 AM (3750 views)
Re: how much work going on out there - William Pattison /CA
7/7/2009 3:28:23 PM (3605 views)
Re: how much work going on out there - Alix Ott/MI
7/10/2009 4:39:29 PM (3592 views)
Re: how much work going on out there - Karen Hurley/KY
7/14/2009 12:36:50 AM (3575 views)
Re: how much work going on out there - Jessica Talley/NJ
7/14/2009 12:04:21 PM (3438 views)
Re: how much work going on out there - elizabeth reddy/FL
7/16/2009 11:45:21 AM (3499 views)
Re: how much work going on out there - Justin Rhoades/NE
7/16/2009 5:46:44 PM (3378 views)
Re: how much work going on out there - Jessica Talley/NJ
7/17/2009 5:03:14 PM (3481 views)
Re: how much work going on out there - Saundra  Scott/MD
7/20/2009 2:16:30 PM (3306 views)
Re: how much work going on out there - george Hubka/MI
7/20/2009 5:55:12 PM (3357 views)
Re: how much work going on out there - Jennifer Acquafredda/NJ
2/3/2010 4:50:18 PM (3308 views)
Re: how much work going on out there - Rick Day/MD
7/23/2009 5:07:10 PM (3327 views)

Kensington - Dan Zook/NY
7/6/2009 2:12:49 PM (3632 views)
Re: Kensington - Kevin Ahern/CT
7/6/2009 3:56:51 PM (3273 views)
Re: Kensington - Dan Zook/NY
7/6/2009 4:26:12 PM (3221 views)

can someone post Michael J's will - Cyril Gonzales, III/LA
7/2/2009 10:17:51 AM (3704 views)
Re: can someone post Michael J's will - Edward Huguenin/SC
7/3/2009 8:13:44 AM (3634 views)
...why? - Brad Bradbury/PA
7/4/2009 12:36:30 AM (3579 views)
Re: ...why? - William Pattison /CA
7/6/2009 2:10:25 AM (3414 views)
Re: ...why? - Brad Bradbury/PA
7/6/2009 5:41:12 PM (3370 views)
Re: ...why? - Robert Franco/OH
7/6/2009 5:50:32 PM (3353 views)
Re: ...why? - Brad Bradbury/PA
7/6/2009 9:45:46 PM (3252 views)
Re: ...why? - Jennifer Perez/ID
7/9/2009 12:07:57 AM (3339 views)
Re: ...why? - Jessica Talley/NJ
7/9/2009 11:13:44 AM (3223 views)
Re: ...why? - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
7/14/2009 2:10:20 PM (3260 views)
Re: ...why? - William Pattison /CA
7/23/2009 7:07:03 PM (3178 views)

Has anyone else been asked to d this? - NANCY WALLACE/NJ
7/1/2009 10:39:37 PM (3962 views)
Re: Has anyone else been asked to d this? - Patrick Scott/IL
7/2/2009 12:40:17 AM (3485 views)
Title abstract fee - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
7/2/2009 7:56:24 AM (3442 views)
Re: Title abstract fee - NANCY WALLACE/NJ
7/2/2009 10:02:18 AM (3287 views)
Re: Title abstract fee - Robert Franco/OH
7/2/2009 10:18:17 AM (3436 views)
Re: Has anyone else been asked to d this? - NANCY WALLACE/NJ
7/2/2009 9:53:30 AM (3225 views)
Re: Has anyone else been asked to d this? - Jessica Talley/NJ
7/2/2009 1:18:08 PM (3365 views)
Re: Has anyone else been asked to d this? - NANCY WALLACE/NJ
7/2/2009 9:46:32 PM (3179 views)
Re: Has anyone else been asked to d this? - Jessica Talley/NJ
7/5/2009 7:31:54 PM (3217 views)
Re: Has anyone else been asked to d this? - William Pattison /CA
7/6/2009 2:06:54 AM (3206 views)
Re: Has anyone else been asked to d this? - Karen Hurley/KY
7/6/2009 3:18:04 AM (3227 views)
Re: Has anyone else been asked to d this? - Serena Stout/VA
7/7/2009 6:23:36 PM (3222 views)
Re: Has anyone else been asked to d this? - Clanci Nelson/OH
7/13/2009 9:52:05 AM (3022 views)
Re: Has anyone else been asked to d this? - george Hubka/MI
7/13/2009 1:48:47 PM (3092 views)
Re: Has anyone else been asked to d this? - Jessica Talley/NJ
7/13/2009 4:32:23 PM (3126 views)
Re: Has anyone else been asked to d this? - Clanci Nelson/OH
7/30/2009 1:46:11 PM (3038 views)

LandAmerica - Smitty Strickland/SC
7/1/2009 7:41:39 AM (4188 views)
Re: LandAmerica - Sandra Harold/KS
7/1/2009 11:09:23 AM (3607 views)
Re: LandAmerica - Jessica Talley/NJ
7/1/2009 12:15:38 PM (3558 views)
Re: LandAmerica - Sheila Sten/PA
7/1/2009 2:42:37 PM (3516 views)
Re: LandAmerica - Smitty Strickland/SC
7/1/2009 5:41:22 PM (3392 views)
Re: LandAmerica - george Hubka/MI
7/2/2009 9:37:06 PM (3436 views)
Re: LandAmerica - Smitty Strickland/SC
7/4/2009 10:30:06 AM (3396 views)
Re: LandAmerica - Sheila Sten/PA
7/6/2009 7:53:33 AM (3353 views)
Re: LandAmerica - george Hubka/MI
7/6/2009 9:52:24 PM (3170 views)
Re: LandAmerica - Sheila Sten/PA
7/7/2009 6:28:32 AM (3179 views)
Re: LandAmerica - george Hubka/MI
7/7/2009 5:08:36 PM (3072 views)
Going Rates - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
7/7/2009 2:49:18 PM (3160 views)
Re: Going Rates - george Hubka/MI
7/7/2009 5:10:02 PM (3161 views)
Going to the Respective counties - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
7/7/2009 5:44:02 PM (3277 views)
Re: Going Rates - Smitty Strickland/SC
7/9/2009 5:51:14 PM (3126 views)
Re: Going Rates - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
7/9/2009 6:02:36 PM (3172 views)
Re: Going Rates - Smitty Strickland/SC
7/10/2009 12:41:32 PM (3144 views)
Re: Going Rates - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
7/10/2009 2:20:20 PM (3111 views)
Re: Going Rates - Smitty Strickland/SC
7/12/2009 4:25:39 PM (3111 views)
Re: LandAmerica - Clanci Nelson/OH
7/13/2009 9:54:05 AM (3024 views)
Re: LandAmerica - Alix Ott/MI
7/6/2009 10:10:28 AM (3258 views)




Question - Laurie E/MD
6/29/2009 6:29:09 PM (3582 views)
Re: Question - William Pattison /CA
7/6/2009 2:14:41 AM (2872 views)

mineral/oil/gas liability - Nathan Miller/KY
6/29/2009 5:05:45 PM (3727 views)
Re: mineral/oil/gas liability - Ray Young/GA
6/30/2009 8:58:25 AM (3149 views)
Re: mineral/oil/gas liability - Jeanine Johnson/MN
6/30/2009 2:23:25 PM (3041 views)
Re: mineral/oil/gas liability - Alix Ott/MI
6/30/2009 5:57:19 PM (3136 views)

Nathan:  AT LEAST YOU AND THE OTHER ABSTRACTORS WHO HAVE COMMENTED HERE ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND THE DANGER!  Jeez, I'm tired of telling title companies how much liability they're taking on when they start talking mineral rights.

I'm actually a Landman (oil/gas title person) and a mortgage-end-of-the-business abstractor.  Having run title for oil/gas in your state (and WV and PA and my own state of Michigan) I urge you in no uncertain terms to explain that if they want a mineral rights and/or oil/gas rights (sometimes those are wrapped in with minerals; sometimes not -- depends on the state), they should contact a Landman.  The search fee could be VERY high depending on the difficulty.  (Landmen often do entire sections back to patent, listing all documents along the way, and those projects can cost tens of thousands of dollars.)  Please do NOT do oil/gas/mineral searches unless you have someone experienced in your state explain the pitfalls.  Some mortgage abstract people can never make the switch to thinking in multiple layers, but I believe any good mortgage abstractor can switch to minerals with just a little extra training.  (Landmen tend to be a bit prissy about their abilities.)

I have a two page letter explaining in excruciating detail why a mortgage/title company should not insure for minerals when they're really only dealing with the surface.  It does lean towards Michigan (which has a 20 year dormancy law), but it is pretty generic and you're welcome to plagiarize it.  Please e-mail me directly at           oily@ArgentTitleResearch.com

Alix

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Re: mineral/oil/gas liability - GARY IMES/WV
7/6/2009 12:55:09 PM (3097 views)

American Abstract - Garret  Fitzgerald/VA
6/29/2009 10:01:46 AM (3611 views)
Re: American Abstract - Nils Nelson/ME
6/29/2009 10:13:18 AM (3221 views)
Re: American Abstract - Constance Foye/VA
6/29/2009 12:19:51 PM (3010 views)
Re: American Abstract - Garret  Fitzgerald/VA
6/29/2009 12:54:02 PM (3067 views)
Re: American Abstract - george Hubka/MI
6/29/2009 1:20:02 PM (3081 views)
Re: American Abstract - Garret  Fitzgerald/VA
6/29/2009 5:16:40 PM (3026 views)

MORTILES, LLC - martha campbell/VA
6/29/2009 6:44:13 AM (8118 views)
Re: MORTILES, LLC - Jana Urban-Buzek/OH
6/29/2009 9:01:44 AM (3771 views)
Re: MORTILES, LLC - Michele  Peele/NC
7/6/2009 8:27:01 PM (3502 views)

Title Agency Support Services (KY company) - Alix Ott/MI
6/28/2009 9:33:16 PM (3680 views)
Re: Title Agency Support Services (KY company) - Nathan Miller/KY
6/29/2009 4:55:54 PM (3208 views)
Re: Title Agency Support Services (KY company) - Alix Ott/MI
6/30/2009 5:58:45 PM (3044 views)

NALTEA October Conference - Lynn Hammett/SC
6/28/2009 6:37:19 PM (2752 views)

Info on Abstractors A Go Go - george Hubka/MI
6/26/2009 10:34:26 PM (4974 views)
Re: Info on Abstractors A Go Go - Nils Nelson/ME
6/27/2009 7:30:41 PM (4072 views)
Re: Info on Abstractors A Go Go - george Hubka/MI
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Re: Info on Abstractors A Go Go - Nils Nelson/ME
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Re: Info on Abstractors A Go Go - george Hubka/MI
6/30/2009 7:13:12 AM (3280 views)
Re: Info on Abstractors A Go Go - Nils Nelson/ME
7/1/2009 4:59:04 PM (3335 views)
Re: Info on Abstractors A Go Go - Sheila Sten/PA
7/1/2009 6:59:05 PM (3335 views)
Re: Info on Abstractors A Go Go - Jason Beter/WV
7/1/2009 7:44:44 PM (3764 views)
Re: Info on Abstractors A Go Go - NANCY WALLACE/NJ
7/1/2009 10:28:07 PM (7123 views)
Re: Info on Abstractors A Go Go - charles jetter/OH
12/27/2009 12:16:22 PM (4171 views)
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Contemporary Title dba Texas Pioneer Title Advantage Title Partners LLC. - Dan Zook/NY
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Old Republic Default Management Services - Edward Huguenin/SC
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