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[-] Time to liven the board up - Kevin Ahern/CT (94 replies)
12/13/2009 9:21:19 AM (3748 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Slade Smith/OH
12/13/2009 10:51:41 AM (3433 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/13/2009 11:52:04 AM (3283 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Slade Smith/OH
12/14/2009 7:01:20 AM (3213 views)
What Would Be The Point? - Scott Perry/PA
12/13/2009 8:49:20 PM (3313 views)
Re: What Would Be The Point? - Nils Nelson/ME
12/13/2009 11:27:29 PM (3306 views)
Re: What Would Be The Point? - Slade Smith/OH
12/14/2009 3:28:08 AM (3312 views)
Re: What Would Be The Point? - Scott Perry/PA
12/14/2009 6:24:38 AM (3339 views)
Re: What Would Be The Point? - Slade Smith/OH
12/14/2009 6:50:27 AM (3208 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Janis Talbot/SC
12/14/2009 9:07:01 AM (3490 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Slade Smith/OH
12/14/2009 9:40:05 AM (3310 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Amy Jensen/OR
12/15/2009 6:26:43 PM (4956 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Slade Smith/OH
12/16/2009 5:28:28 PM (3233 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - george Hubka/MI
12/16/2009 5:52:08 PM (3348 views)
Not at all - Slade Smith/OH
12/17/2009 8:30:14 AM (3157 views)
Re: Not at all - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/17/2009 9:16:27 AM (3353 views)
Re: Not at all - george Hubka/MI
12/18/2009 12:49:55 PM (3054 views)
Re: Not at all - Scott Perry/PA
12/18/2009 2:07:27 PM (3273 views)
Get your facts straight, Bossman - Slade Smith/OH
12/18/2009 3:22:33 PM (4808 views)
Re: Get your facts straight, Bossman - george Hubka/MI
12/18/2009 10:46:03 PM (3156 views)
Re: Read A History Book, Skymutt - Scott Perry/PA
12/19/2009 1:32:09 AM (3199 views)
Re: Read A History Book, Skymutt - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/19/2009 7:03:53 AM (3200 views)
Re: Read A History Book, Skymutt - Scott Perry/PA
12/19/2009 12:31:03 PM (3124 views)
Re: Read A History Book, Skymutt - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/19/2009 4:32:07 PM (3045 views)
Re: Read A History Book, Skymutt - Scott Perry/PA
12/19/2009 5:55:01 PM (3094 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Robert Franco/OH
12/14/2009 10:14:27 AM (3121 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/14/2009 12:44:31 PM (3307 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Robert Franco/OH
12/14/2009 12:55:06 PM (3028 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/14/2009 1:14:58 PM (3295 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Robert Franco/OH
12/14/2009 1:43:38 PM (3112 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/14/2009 6:26:17 PM (3267 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Slade Smith/OH
12/15/2009 3:14:52 AM (3141 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/15/2009 7:12:28 AM (3143 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/15/2009 7:41:42 AM (3358 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/15/2009 8:06:45 AM (3077 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/15/2009 8:36:58 AM (2988 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/15/2009 8:51:09 AM (2987 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - george Hubka/MI
12/15/2009 9:06:26 PM (3067 views)
Re: Time to liven- Not HC reform - george Hubka/MI
12/15/2009 8:59:59 PM (2983 views)
Please explain what provision in the current bill... - Slade Smith/OH
12/15/2009 9:04:46 AM (3105 views)
Re: Please explain what provision in the current bill... - Scott Perry/PA
12/15/2009 9:16:28 AM (3016 views)
Re: Please explain what provision in the current bill... - george Hubka/MI
12/15/2009 9:01:06 PM (2888 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - george Hubka/MI
12/15/2009 9:08:03 PM (2890 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - george Hubka/MI
12/15/2009 8:53:14 PM (2897 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Robert Franco/OH
12/16/2009 8:49:49 AM (3051 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/16/2009 9:08:52 AM (2999 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Robert Franco/OH
12/16/2009 1:54:23 PM (3086 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - george Hubka/MI
12/16/2009 5:58:07 PM (3035 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Robert Franco/OH
12/16/2009 11:01:34 PM (2909 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/16/2009 7:26:07 PM (3034 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Robert Franco/OH
12/16/2009 10:30:33 PM (2942 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/17/2009 1:01:23 AM (3138 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Robert Franco/OH
12/17/2009 9:18:48 AM (3075 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - george Hubka/MI
12/17/2009 3:05:09 PM (2906 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Robert Franco/OH
12/17/2009 6:59:15 PM (2843 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/17/2009 10:32:49 PM (2936 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Robert Franco/OH
12/18/2009 10:20:34 AM (2968 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/18/2009 11:00:27 AM (2923 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - george Hubka/MI
12/18/2009 12:56:04 PM (2788 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Slade Smith/OH
12/18/2009 4:07:23 PM (2943 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/18/2009 5:28:54 PM (2829 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/17/2009 5:37:54 AM (2875 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/14/2009 1:52:53 PM (2994 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/14/2009 5:59:19 PM (3785 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/14/2009 9:05:55 PM (2869 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/15/2009 6:10:43 AM (2797 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/15/2009 7:02:32 AM (2709 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/15/2009 7:35:53 AM (2915 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/15/2009 8:10:04 AM (2726 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/15/2009 8:54:43 AM (2814 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/15/2009 9:07:18 AM (2820 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/14/2009 7:10:44 PM (2701 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Robert Franco/OH
12/14/2009 10:03:08 AM (2940 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/14/2009 1:01:04 PM (2870 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Robert Franco/OH
12/14/2009 1:21:06 PM (2876 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/14/2009 2:47:32 PM (2812 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Robert Franco/OH
12/14/2009 4:17:28 PM (2895 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/14/2009 5:24:52 PM (2849 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/14/2009 6:17:58 PM (2746 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - george Hubka/MI
12/15/2009 9:03:13 PM (2678 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Robert Franco/OH
12/16/2009 8:52:02 AM (2794 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/16/2009 1:38:04 PM (2812 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Kacy Howland/OH
12/21/2009 7:57:40 PM (2846 views)

The real problems with our medical costs are not being addressed, with any of the options out there. 

The real issue is patent laws within the US. These government backed monopolies have allowed price gouging to occur and inhibit progress, research and competition.  Pharm companies are just the beginning.  Drugs where we can get $5 generics at Wal-Mart were once sold for outrageous prices while they were under patent protection. They prevent independent reliable testing by adding non disclosure and/or approval clauses to end user agreements.  
But even worse than the pharmaceutical companies are the research companies who hold patents on viruses, diseases, and human genes. They charge to research, they control who can research, and they prevent development of competing drugs.   They create a legal and financial barrier to universities and companies who wish to do research, who wish to find cures, and who really wish to heal the masses. Approximately 20 percent of all human genes are patented, including genes associated with Alzheimer’s, muscular dystrophy, colon cancer, breast cancer, and even some forms of asthma. No company can test your genes for the warning signs, without paying for rights to access your genes.
 
Other medical patents that drive up cost includes patents on medical machines, implants, and other medical life saving devices. Medical techniques are also covered as ‘trade secrets’ and companies charge to allow doctors to use said techniques. That ‘heart hospital’ around the corner, is most likely a hospital that has paid for the rights to use such trade techniques, and specialty devices that increase their success rate.
 
All you lawyers will start the argument that its in the constitution. (for those who don’t know.. The Congress shall have power ... To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries.)
 
The recent lawsuits that have been filed by many organizations ranging from the American breast cancer society, the Public Patent Foundation, and the ACLU, have claimed our current patent law is unconstitutional because the current patent laws do not promote the progress of science.   In reality, the control of our genes, our diseases, our viruses prevent medical advancement while allowing price gouging and other detrimental results of these government backed monopolies.
 
Some countries, which really care for their citizens, have publically begun to ignore US and WTO patent laws. They allow the medicines to be produced, they allow the procedures to be used, and they allow research on diseases that are covered by patent laws. When Brazil rejects Gilead patent on HIV drug, the US took the matter to the WTO, threatening sanctions for ignoring the global patents laws. Their companies make a generic WHO approved version for $158/year instead of the $1,400/year version sold by Gilead.
 
People may argue, that without patent laws, no one would do the research, no one would invest in the research. But the reality is the people who actually do the research, are ones who believe in the cause, those who want to save lives, and those whose priority does not lay in the pocket book. The only ones who benefit from these patent laws are the Businessmen/women higher up the corporate ladder, as well as their stockholders. The individuals, who have put their hearts into the cause, see little of the rewards of the price gouging.
 
If the patent laws do not change, there will never be a cure for the high cost of medical care within the United States.
 
A large portion of our tax dollars goes to research. One additional law that should be passed is that any company who receives government money for research, CAN NOT profit or patent the results of that research. This should include all aspects of patents, medical, industrial, environmental, and energy.   Tax dollars paid for the foundation of the internet, subsidized phone lines, etc… and yet we have to pay a second time to the companies that control those government paid infrastructure. 
 
**On a side note, Monsanto owns rights to nearly 70 percent of all soy seeds and 85 percent of all corn seeds sold in the US.  They sell 90 percent of the worlds genetically modified seeds.  The current trend of seeds are terminator seeds, which will only grow once, and will not produce grow able seeds used in future crops.  (Forcing farmers to purchase seeds every year.)   Now that they own the market, they have begun to jack prices up. Corn seed prices went up 26 percent last year alone. Soy as well, had its prices increased 23 percent last year. There are many good documentaries out there that look at the future of our food supply, and how Monsanto has gained control of the world food market.
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