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[-] Time to liven the board up - Kevin Ahern/CT (94 replies)
12/13/2009 9:21:19 AM (3876 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Slade Smith/OH
12/13/2009 10:51:41 AM (3748 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/13/2009 11:52:04 AM (3607 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Slade Smith/OH
12/14/2009 7:01:20 AM (3540 views)
What Would Be The Point? - Scott Perry/PA
12/13/2009 8:49:20 PM (3613 views)
Re: What Would Be The Point? - Nils Nelson/ME
12/13/2009 11:27:29 PM (3626 views)
Re: What Would Be The Point? - Slade Smith/OH
12/14/2009 3:28:08 AM (3628 views)
Re: What Would Be The Point? - Scott Perry/PA
12/14/2009 6:24:38 AM (3650 views)
Re: What Would Be The Point? - Slade Smith/OH
12/14/2009 6:50:27 AM (3515 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Janis Talbot/SC
12/14/2009 9:07:01 AM (3770 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Slade Smith/OH
12/14/2009 9:40:05 AM (3607 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Amy Jensen/OR
12/15/2009 6:26:43 PM (5303 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Slade Smith/OH
12/16/2009 5:28:28 PM (3548 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - george Hubka/MI
12/16/2009 5:52:08 PM (3640 views)
Not at all - Slade Smith/OH
12/17/2009 8:30:14 AM (3423 views)
Re: Not at all - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/17/2009 9:16:27 AM (3606 views)
Re: Not at all - george Hubka/MI
12/18/2009 12:49:55 PM (3396 views)
Re: Not at all - Scott Perry/PA
12/18/2009 2:07:27 PM (3586 views)
Get your facts straight, Bossman - Slade Smith/OH
12/18/2009 3:22:33 PM (5145 views)
Re: Get your facts straight, Bossman - george Hubka/MI
12/18/2009 10:46:03 PM (3461 views)
Re: Read A History Book, Skymutt - Scott Perry/PA
12/19/2009 1:32:09 AM (3487 views)
Re: Read A History Book, Skymutt - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/19/2009 7:03:53 AM (3500 views)
Re: Read A History Book, Skymutt - Scott Perry/PA
12/19/2009 12:31:03 PM (3410 views)
Re: Read A History Book, Skymutt - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/19/2009 4:32:07 PM (3324 views)
Re: Read A History Book, Skymutt - Scott Perry/PA
12/19/2009 5:55:01 PM (3388 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Robert Franco/OH
12/14/2009 10:14:27 AM (3431 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/14/2009 12:44:31 PM (3628 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Robert Franco/OH
12/14/2009 12:55:06 PM (3321 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/14/2009 1:14:58 PM (3589 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Robert Franco/OH
12/14/2009 1:43:38 PM (3411 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/14/2009 6:26:17 PM (3575 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Slade Smith/OH
12/15/2009 3:14:52 AM (3438 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/15/2009 7:12:28 AM (3452 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/15/2009 7:41:42 AM (3646 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/15/2009 8:06:45 AM (3393 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/15/2009 8:36:58 AM (3283 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/15/2009 8:51:09 AM (3297 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - george Hubka/MI
12/15/2009 9:06:26 PM (3360 views)
Re: Time to liven- Not HC reform - george Hubka/MI
12/15/2009 8:59:59 PM (3310 views)
Please explain what provision in the current bill... - Slade Smith/OH
12/15/2009 9:04:46 AM (3415 views)
Re: Please explain what provision in the current bill... - Scott Perry/PA
12/15/2009 9:16:28 AM (3321 views)
Re: Please explain what provision in the current bill... - george Hubka/MI
12/15/2009 9:01:06 PM (3210 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - george Hubka/MI
12/15/2009 9:08:03 PM (3213 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - george Hubka/MI
12/15/2009 8:53:14 PM (3224 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Robert Franco/OH
12/16/2009 8:49:49 AM (3371 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/16/2009 9:08:52 AM (3294 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Robert Franco/OH
12/16/2009 1:54:23 PM (3387 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - george Hubka/MI
12/16/2009 5:58:07 PM (3327 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Robert Franco/OH
12/16/2009 11:01:34 PM (3201 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/16/2009 7:26:07 PM (3342 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Robert Franco/OH
12/16/2009 10:30:33 PM (3218 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/17/2009 1:01:23 AM (3431 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Robert Franco/OH
12/17/2009 9:18:48 AM (3362 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - george Hubka/MI
12/17/2009 3:05:09 PM (3180 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Robert Franco/OH
12/17/2009 6:59:15 PM (3128 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/17/2009 10:32:49 PM (3235 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Robert Franco/OH
12/18/2009 10:20:34 AM (3268 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/18/2009 11:00:27 AM (3228 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - george Hubka/MI
12/18/2009 12:56:04 PM (3064 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Slade Smith/OH
12/18/2009 4:07:23 PM (3237 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/18/2009 5:28:54 PM (3121 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/17/2009 5:37:54 AM (3157 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/14/2009 1:52:53 PM (3325 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/14/2009 5:59:19 PM (4126 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/14/2009 9:05:55 PM (3194 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/15/2009 6:10:43 AM (3109 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/15/2009 7:02:32 AM (3014 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/15/2009 7:35:53 AM (3221 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/15/2009 8:10:04 AM (3024 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/15/2009 8:54:43 AM (3093 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/15/2009 9:07:18 AM (3111 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/14/2009 7:10:44 PM (2976 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Robert Franco/OH
12/14/2009 10:03:08 AM (3249 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/14/2009 1:01:04 PM (3181 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Robert Franco/OH
12/14/2009 1:21:06 PM (3169 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/14/2009 2:47:32 PM (3106 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Robert Franco/OH
12/14/2009 4:17:28 PM (3228 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/14/2009 5:24:52 PM (3137 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/14/2009 6:17:58 PM (3059 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - george Hubka/MI
12/15/2009 9:03:13 PM (3002 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Robert Franco/OH
12/16/2009 8:52:02 AM (3136 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/16/2009 1:38:04 PM (3115 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Kacy Howland/OH
12/21/2009 7:57:40 PM (3170 views)

The real problems with our medical costs are not being addressed, with any of the options out there. 

The real issue is patent laws within the US. These government backed monopolies have allowed price gouging to occur and inhibit progress, research and competition.  Pharm companies are just the beginning.  Drugs where we can get $5 generics at Wal-Mart were once sold for outrageous prices while they were under patent protection. They prevent independent reliable testing by adding non disclosure and/or approval clauses to end user agreements.  
But even worse than the pharmaceutical companies are the research companies who hold patents on viruses, diseases, and human genes. They charge to research, they control who can research, and they prevent development of competing drugs.   They create a legal and financial barrier to universities and companies who wish to do research, who wish to find cures, and who really wish to heal the masses. Approximately 20 percent of all human genes are patented, including genes associated with Alzheimer’s, muscular dystrophy, colon cancer, breast cancer, and even some forms of asthma. No company can test your genes for the warning signs, without paying for rights to access your genes.
 
Other medical patents that drive up cost includes patents on medical machines, implants, and other medical life saving devices. Medical techniques are also covered as ‘trade secrets’ and companies charge to allow doctors to use said techniques. That ‘heart hospital’ around the corner, is most likely a hospital that has paid for the rights to use such trade techniques, and specialty devices that increase their success rate.
 
All you lawyers will start the argument that its in the constitution. (for those who don’t know.. The Congress shall have power ... To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries.)
 
The recent lawsuits that have been filed by many organizations ranging from the American breast cancer society, the Public Patent Foundation, and the ACLU, have claimed our current patent law is unconstitutional because the current patent laws do not promote the progress of science.   In reality, the control of our genes, our diseases, our viruses prevent medical advancement while allowing price gouging and other detrimental results of these government backed monopolies.
 
Some countries, which really care for their citizens, have publically begun to ignore US and WTO patent laws. They allow the medicines to be produced, they allow the procedures to be used, and they allow research on diseases that are covered by patent laws. When Brazil rejects Gilead patent on HIV drug, the US took the matter to the WTO, threatening sanctions for ignoring the global patents laws. Their companies make a generic WHO approved version for $158/year instead of the $1,400/year version sold by Gilead.
 
People may argue, that without patent laws, no one would do the research, no one would invest in the research. But the reality is the people who actually do the research, are ones who believe in the cause, those who want to save lives, and those whose priority does not lay in the pocket book. The only ones who benefit from these patent laws are the Businessmen/women higher up the corporate ladder, as well as their stockholders. The individuals, who have put their hearts into the cause, see little of the rewards of the price gouging.
 
If the patent laws do not change, there will never be a cure for the high cost of medical care within the United States.
 
A large portion of our tax dollars goes to research. One additional law that should be passed is that any company who receives government money for research, CAN NOT profit or patent the results of that research. This should include all aspects of patents, medical, industrial, environmental, and energy.   Tax dollars paid for the foundation of the internet, subsidized phone lines, etc… and yet we have to pay a second time to the companies that control those government paid infrastructure. 
 
**On a side note, Monsanto owns rights to nearly 70 percent of all soy seeds and 85 percent of all corn seeds sold in the US.  They sell 90 percent of the worlds genetically modified seeds.  The current trend of seeds are terminator seeds, which will only grow once, and will not produce grow able seeds used in future crops.  (Forcing farmers to purchase seeds every year.)   Now that they own the market, they have begun to jack prices up. Corn seed prices went up 26 percent last year alone. Soy as well, had its prices increased 23 percent last year. There are many good documentaries out there that look at the future of our food supply, and how Monsanto has gained control of the world food market.
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