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[-] Time to liven the board up - Kevin Ahern/CT (94 replies)
12/13/2009 9:21:19 AM (3865 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Slade Smith/OH
12/13/2009 10:51:41 AM (3720 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/13/2009 11:52:04 AM (3584 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Slade Smith/OH
12/14/2009 7:01:20 AM (3514 views)
What Would Be The Point? - Scott Perry/PA
12/13/2009 8:49:20 PM (3584 views)
Re: What Would Be The Point? - Nils Nelson/ME
12/13/2009 11:27:29 PM (3600 views)
Re: What Would Be The Point? - Slade Smith/OH
12/14/2009 3:28:08 AM (3604 views)
Re: What Would Be The Point? - Scott Perry/PA
12/14/2009 6:24:38 AM (3626 views)
Re: What Would Be The Point? - Slade Smith/OH
12/14/2009 6:50:27 AM (3491 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Janis Talbot/SC
12/14/2009 9:07:01 AM (3747 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Slade Smith/OH
12/14/2009 9:40:05 AM (3560 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Amy Jensen/OR
12/15/2009 6:26:43 PM (5268 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Slade Smith/OH
12/16/2009 5:28:28 PM (3517 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - george Hubka/MI
12/16/2009 5:52:08 PM (3612 views)
Not at all - Slade Smith/OH
12/17/2009 8:30:14 AM (3386 views)
Re: Not at all - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/17/2009 9:16:27 AM (3577 views)
Re: Not at all - george Hubka/MI
12/18/2009 12:49:55 PM (3364 views)
Re: Not at all - Scott Perry/PA
12/18/2009 2:07:27 PM (3554 views)
Get your facts straight, Bossman - Slade Smith/OH
12/18/2009 3:22:33 PM (5107 views)
Re: Get your facts straight, Bossman - george Hubka/MI
12/18/2009 10:46:03 PM (3429 views)
Re: Read A History Book, Skymutt - Scott Perry/PA
12/19/2009 1:32:09 AM (3445 views)

OK, maybe I am engaging in a bit of hyperbole, but the fact remains that there is no way to "opt out" of the system, so it's a forced savings plan at best.  Taking someone's money by force is called "robbery" if an individual or business does it.  Now, let's take those three attributes you cited that constitute a Ponzi scheme:

1. Ponzi schemes entail deception, whereas Social Security is exactly as advertiized-- current workers pay into the system, and that money is transferred to current retirees.

No deception?  What do you call that non-existant "Social Security Trust Fund" that lawmakers of both parties use as political fodder at election time?  There hasn't been a Social Security Trust Fund since it was combined with the General Fund in 1968 to cover the deficit.  Furthermore, when FDR first enacted the program, he promised that participation in the program would be "completely voluntary".

2. Ponzi schemes are inherently unsustainable, whereas Social Security can be-- it only requires that politicians adjust taxes and benefits to account for a shrinking workforce and an expanding population of seniors.  In fact, if demographics were constant, Social Security could continue indefinitely without any change at all to taxes or benefits at all.

Yes, but the demographics don't remain constant in the real world, do they?  I also noticed how you studiously avoided using the words "raise taxes" and "cut benefits".  That's what I love about the left.  They never stop to consider that what they've been doing is wrong; they just think they haven't spent enough of our money on it yet.

3. Ponzi schemes are designed to enrich the originator of the scheme.  Social Security was designed to "enrich" old and disabled former workers, who were often destitute before Social Security was enacted.

Well, my 76-year-old mother would probably tell you she doesn't feel very "enriched" by the pittance she gets.  Mostly the program now just "enriches" the careers of politicians who like having it as an issue to demagogue at election time.  Social Security may have been started with the best of intentions, but we all know the saying about good intentions, don't we?

Regards,
Scott Perry

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Re: Read A History Book, Skymutt - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/19/2009 7:03:53 AM (3467 views)
Re: Read A History Book, Skymutt - Scott Perry/PA
12/19/2009 12:31:03 PM (3369 views)
Re: Read A History Book, Skymutt - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/19/2009 4:32:07 PM (3292 views)
Re: Read A History Book, Skymutt - Scott Perry/PA
12/19/2009 5:55:01 PM (3348 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Robert Franco/OH
12/14/2009 10:14:27 AM (3405 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/14/2009 12:44:31 PM (3594 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Robert Franco/OH
12/14/2009 12:55:06 PM (3291 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/14/2009 1:14:58 PM (3561 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Robert Franco/OH
12/14/2009 1:43:38 PM (3385 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/14/2009 6:26:17 PM (3543 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Slade Smith/OH
12/15/2009 3:14:52 AM (3412 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/15/2009 7:12:28 AM (3419 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/15/2009 7:41:42 AM (3602 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/15/2009 8:06:45 AM (3362 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/15/2009 8:36:58 AM (3237 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/15/2009 8:51:09 AM (3266 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - george Hubka/MI
12/15/2009 9:06:26 PM (3337 views)
Re: Time to liven- Not HC reform - george Hubka/MI
12/15/2009 8:59:59 PM (3282 views)
Please explain what provision in the current bill... - Slade Smith/OH
12/15/2009 9:04:46 AM (3383 views)
Re: Please explain what provision in the current bill... - Scott Perry/PA
12/15/2009 9:16:28 AM (3283 views)
Re: Please explain what provision in the current bill... - george Hubka/MI
12/15/2009 9:01:06 PM (3182 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - george Hubka/MI
12/15/2009 9:08:03 PM (3183 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - george Hubka/MI
12/15/2009 8:53:14 PM (3191 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Time to liven the board up - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Time to liven the board up - george Hubka/MI
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Re: Time to liven the board up - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Time to liven the board up - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Time to liven the board up - george Hubka/MI
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Re: Time to liven the board up - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Time to liven the board up - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Time to liven the board up - george Hubka/MI
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Re: Time to liven the board up - Slade Smith/OH
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Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Time to liven the board up - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/17/2009 5:37:54 AM (3126 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Time to liven the board up - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: Time to liven the board up - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Time to liven the board up - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Time to liven the board up - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Time to liven the board up - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Time to liven the board up - Kevin Ahern/CT
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