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[-] Time to liven the board up - Kevin Ahern/CT (94 replies)
12/13/2009 9:21:19 AM (3748 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Slade Smith/OH
12/13/2009 10:51:41 AM (3433 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/13/2009 11:52:04 AM (3284 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Slade Smith/OH
12/14/2009 7:01:20 AM (3215 views)
What Would Be The Point? - Scott Perry/PA
12/13/2009 8:49:20 PM (3313 views)
Re: What Would Be The Point? - Nils Nelson/ME
12/13/2009 11:27:29 PM (3307 views)
Re: What Would Be The Point? - Slade Smith/OH
12/14/2009 3:28:08 AM (3312 views)
Re: What Would Be The Point? - Scott Perry/PA
12/14/2009 6:24:38 AM (3340 views)
Re: What Would Be The Point? - Slade Smith/OH
12/14/2009 6:50:27 AM (3208 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Janis Talbot/SC
12/14/2009 9:07:01 AM (3490 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Slade Smith/OH
12/14/2009 9:40:05 AM (3310 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Amy Jensen/OR
12/15/2009 6:26:43 PM (4956 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Slade Smith/OH
12/16/2009 5:28:28 PM (3233 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - george Hubka/MI
12/16/2009 5:52:08 PM (3350 views)
Not at all - Slade Smith/OH
12/17/2009 8:30:14 AM (3157 views)
Re: Not at all - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/17/2009 9:16:27 AM (3353 views)
Re: Not at all - george Hubka/MI
12/18/2009 12:49:55 PM (3054 views)
Re: Not at all - Scott Perry/PA
12/18/2009 2:07:27 PM (3274 views)
Get your facts straight, Bossman - Slade Smith/OH
12/18/2009 3:22:33 PM (4808 views)
Re: Get your facts straight, Bossman - george Hubka/MI
12/18/2009 10:46:03 PM (3156 views)
Re: Read A History Book, Skymutt - Scott Perry/PA
12/19/2009 1:32:09 AM (3199 views)
Re: Read A History Book, Skymutt - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/19/2009 7:03:53 AM (3200 views)
Re: Read A History Book, Skymutt - Scott Perry/PA
12/19/2009 12:31:03 PM (3124 views)
Re: Read A History Book, Skymutt - Douglas Gallant/OH
12/19/2009 4:32:07 PM (3045 views)
Re: Read A History Book, Skymutt - Scott Perry/PA
12/19/2009 5:55:01 PM (3094 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Robert Franco/OH
12/14/2009 10:14:27 AM (3122 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/14/2009 12:44:31 PM (3309 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Robert Franco/OH
12/14/2009 12:55:06 PM (3030 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/14/2009 1:14:58 PM (3295 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Robert Franco/OH
12/14/2009 1:43:38 PM (3112 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/14/2009 6:26:17 PM (3267 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Slade Smith/OH
12/15/2009 3:14:52 AM (3141 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/15/2009 7:12:28 AM (3143 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/15/2009 7:41:42 AM (3358 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/15/2009 8:06:45 AM (3077 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/15/2009 8:36:58 AM (2988 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/15/2009 8:51:09 AM (2987 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - george Hubka/MI
12/15/2009 9:06:26 PM (3067 views)
Re: Time to liven- Not HC reform - george Hubka/MI
12/15/2009 8:59:59 PM (2983 views)
Please explain what provision in the current bill... - Slade Smith/OH
12/15/2009 9:04:46 AM (3105 views)
Re: Please explain what provision in the current bill... - Scott Perry/PA
12/15/2009 9:16:28 AM (3016 views)
Re: Please explain what provision in the current bill... - george Hubka/MI
12/15/2009 9:01:06 PM (2888 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - george Hubka/MI
12/15/2009 9:08:03 PM (2890 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - george Hubka/MI
12/15/2009 8:53:14 PM (2898 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Robert Franco/OH
12/16/2009 8:49:49 AM (3052 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/16/2009 9:08:52 AM (2999 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Robert Franco/OH
12/16/2009 1:54:23 PM (3086 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - george Hubka/MI
12/16/2009 5:58:07 PM (3036 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Robert Franco/OH
12/16/2009 11:01:34 PM (2909 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/16/2009 7:26:07 PM (3034 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Robert Franco/OH
12/16/2009 10:30:33 PM (2942 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/17/2009 1:01:23 AM (3138 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Robert Franco/OH
12/17/2009 9:18:48 AM (3075 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - george Hubka/MI
12/17/2009 3:05:09 PM (2906 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Robert Franco/OH
12/17/2009 6:59:15 PM (2845 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/17/2009 10:32:49 PM (2936 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Robert Franco/OH
12/18/2009 10:20:34 AM (2968 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/18/2009 11:00:27 AM (2923 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - george Hubka/MI
12/18/2009 12:56:04 PM (2788 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Slade Smith/OH
12/18/2009 4:07:23 PM (2943 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/18/2009 5:28:54 PM (2830 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/17/2009 5:37:54 AM (2875 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/14/2009 1:52:53 PM (2994 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/14/2009 5:59:19 PM (3785 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/14/2009 9:05:55 PM (2869 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/15/2009 6:10:43 AM (2797 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/15/2009 7:02:32 AM (2709 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/15/2009 7:35:53 AM (2916 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/15/2009 8:10:04 AM (2727 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Kevin Ahern/CT
12/15/2009 8:54:43 AM (2816 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/15/2009 9:07:18 AM (2820 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/14/2009 7:10:44 PM (2701 views)
Re: Time to liven the board up - Robert Franco/OH
12/14/2009 10:03:08 AM (2940 views)

As a Republican, I think the GOP is way off track with health care -- of course, the Democrats aren't getting it right either.

First, I think the Republicans are making a mistake by always turning the discussion into a debate over "whether health care is a right" or, worse, "socialism."  Health care doesn't have to be a right in order to pass legislation that will provide coverage to more Americans.  Clearly, there is no Constitutional right to health care, but the fact is that in today's world health care is a necessity!  I say it is necessary for two reasons: (1) the cost of medical care is beyond the average American today.  Even with some insurance plans, most Americans really have to rely on never getting seriously ill.  More than 60% of all bankruptcies are related to medical costs (think of the toll that takes on the economy), and many of those people have insurance.  And (2), those without heath insurance are driving up the cost of medical care for all of us.  When they have a serious illness, they aren't turned away - they get their treatment and the medical community has to charge us more to make up the difference.

The argument that we are becoming a socialist state because the government wants to help us with health care is just laughable.  At least it would be if so many didn't take it seriously.  I don't think I want to be a part of a "free country" that believes that health care is only a privilege for the wealthy.  The government wastes so much money that doesn't benefit many of us - I don't see anything wrong with spending some of it on something as important as health care that will benefit the majority of Americans.

And, second, not to leave out the Democrats in my rant - they are clearly using scare tactics and rhetoric to pass one of the biggest shifts in power from the states to the federal government in our history.  I do believe that we need to do something to provide health coverage to more Americans - BUT, we do not need a full scale take over of the insurance industry to do it.  And that leads into Kevin's question about the public option...

Personally, I have no fear of a public option, but I don't really like it.  If the government is as bad at running everything as the right-wing fanatics say they are, what would the harm be so long as it remains an option?  As an employer who pays 100% of the health insurance premiums for my employees, I wouldn't switch to a public option.  I am happy with our health insurance, except for the price.  If those people without health care could get coverage, even under a public option, perhaps premiums would drop for the rest of us.  That wouldn't be all bad.

However, I don't think it is necessary to institute a public option, at least at the federal level.  I'd much prefer to see several states work on their own health insurance reform to accomplish the goal of getting more people covered.  See what works on the state level and let the states gravitate toward the plan that works best.   

The biggest problem I see with regulating health care at the federal level is that not every state has the same problems.  In some states, it may be a large population of aging citizens (Florida and Arizona), it may be illegal immigrants (California, Texas, New Mexico), or it might just be loss of jobs from a change in our economy (Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania).  A one-size-fits-all federal approach isn't going to be efficient at addressing all of the concerns equally well, and it could turn out to do them all poorly. 

And, I quite agree with Slade (on at least one issue), that "the bottom line on health-care reform is this:  right now our country is too cash-poor, too infused with corruption, and too ill-informed to make meaningful comprehensive health care reform even possible right now."  We simply cannot afford it.  We really need to focus on the economy first and then see what we really need (and can afford) to do.

Good topic for debate, Kevin.

Best,
Robert A. Franco
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Re: Time to liven the board up - Scott Perry/PA
12/14/2009 1:01:04 PM (2870 views)
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