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[+] Infinity International Processing Services Inc - Matt Burger/VA (1 reply)
4/5/2010 9:21:10 PM (7901 views)

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[-] HEALT CARE BILL EXEMPTION FOR SENATORS? - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD (27 replies)
4/5/2010 1:29:24 PM (3766 views)
Re: HEALT CARE BILL EXEMPTION FOR SENATORS? - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: HEALT CARE BILL EXEMPTION FOR SENATORS? - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: HEALT CARE BILL EXEMPTION FOR SENATORS? - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: HEALT CARE BILL EXEMPTION FOR SENATORS? - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: HEALT CARE BILL EXEMPTION FOR SENATORS? - Douglas Gallant/OH
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Re: HEALT CARE BILL EXEMPTION FOR SENATORS? - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
4/8/2010 11:07:08 AM (3810 views)
Re: HEALT CARE BILL EXEMPTION FOR SENATORS? - Scott Perry/PA
4/13/2010 10:52:49 PM (5916 views)
Re: HEALT CARE BILL EXEMPTION FOR SENATORS? - george Hubka/MI
4/17/2010 3:13:23 PM (3875 views)
WHY FOR SENATORS THEN? - george Hubka/MI
4/6/2010 8:07:55 PM (3991 views)
Re: WHY FOR SENATORS THEN? - charles jetter/OH
4/9/2010 9:17:25 PM (3865 views)
Re: HEALT CARE BILL EXEMPTION FOR SENATORS? - charles jetter/OH
4/9/2010 9:14:19 PM (3923 views)
Re: HEALT CARE BILL EXEMPTION FOR SENATORS? - charles jetter/OH
4/9/2010 9:11:44 PM (3753 views)
Re: HEALT CARE BILL EXEMPTION FOR SENATORS? - Scott Perry/PA
4/10/2010 12:21:30 AM (3946 views)
Re: HEALT CARE BILL EXEMPTION FOR SENATORS? - Carl Litchfield/SC
4/12/2010 11:29:08 AM (3914 views)
Re: HEALT CARE BILL EXEMPTION FOR SENATORS? - john rutledge/VA
4/19/2010 10:00:21 AM (3837 views)
Re: HEALT CARE BILL EXEMPTION FOR SENATORS? - Scott Perry/PA
4/19/2010 6:51:22 PM (3815 views)
Re: HEALT CARE BILL EXEMPTION FOR SENATORS? - Slade Smith/OH
4/20/2010 3:18:17 AM (5593 views)

I am somewhat in agreement on your main point, actually.  The poor who get sick do have a baseline level of care under the current system-- the emergency room.  I think it's a lousy system, but everyone does have access to some level of health care.  Just like other essentials like food, clothing, and shelter, the rich get better quality product than the poor, but that actually is less signifcant than people think-- life does not necessarily require optimal conditions.  Consider the Bristlecone Pine, the longest-living form of life on earth, which lives in the poor soils on the inhospitable high ridges of the Sierra and the Great Basin, surviving harsh winter cold.... for up to 5000 years!

Conceptually it's really not that much of a stretch to compare emergency room health care to basic police and fire coverage.  For example, the rich augment their security from the baseline of police protection with any number of security augmentations-- monitored alarm systems, closed circuit cameras, gated communities with dedicated security personnel, etc.  And for the very rich, fire protection is augmented too.  And of course, the rich get their Cadillac health insurance plans or simply pay for premium Mayo Clinic care out of pocket. 

The vast majority of health care is stuff most of us can do for ourselves-- keeping active, eating a reasonable diet, not poisoning ourselves with intoxicating chemicals.  But most Americans fail to live a healthy lifestyle-- and they end up with very preventable and costly chronic disorders that drive up the cost of health insurance sky high for everyone.  Let's see a lot more Americans do the basics for themselves, and then come talk to me about moral imperatives for universal health care in America.

By the way, I think that you are slightly confused about the national police force thing.  I have seen no radical moves by Obama in this area.  We do have national law enforcement agencies-- the BATF, the DEA, the FBI, the SEC, etc, but I have not heard anything about the creation of a new national police force.  Perhaps you have seen a black helicopter that I have not! :-) 

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Re: HEALT CARE BILL EXEMPTION FOR SENATORS? - Scott Perry/PA
4/20/2010 7:00:30 AM (3915 views)
Re: HEALT CARE BILL EXEMPTION FOR SENATORS? - Slade Smith/OH
4/20/2010 12:08:32 PM (5358 views)
Re: HEALT CARE BILL EXEMPTION FOR SENATORS? - Scott Perry/PA
4/20/2010 6:20:19 PM (3939 views)
Re: HEALT CARE BILL EXEMPTION FOR SENATORS? - Slade Smith/OH
4/21/2010 1:27:44 AM (3595 views)
Re: HEALT CARE BILL EXEMPTION FOR SENATORS? - Scott Perry/PA
4/21/2010 6:35:03 AM (3804 views)
Re: HEALT CARE BILL EXEMPTION FOR SENATORS? - Slade Smith/OH
4/21/2010 6:08:33 PM (5371 views)
Re: HEALT CARE BILL EXEMPTION FOR SENATORS? - Scott Perry/PA
4/21/2010 6:36:17 PM (4132 views)
Re: HEALT CARE BILL EXEMPTION FOR SENATORS? - Slade Smith/OH
4/21/2010 7:26:20 PM (3751 views)
Re: HEALT CARE BILL EXEMPTION FOR SENATORS? - Scott Perry/PA
4/21/2010 9:32:19 PM (3832 views)
Re: HEALT CARE BILL EXEMPTION FOR SENATORS? - Scott Perry/PA
4/19/2010 11:57:25 PM (3862 views)

[+] Doctor view of health care crisis - george Hubka/MI (5 replies)
4/2/2010 9:54:50 PM (3884 views)




[+] Dumb Congressman can't speak for themself - george Hubka/MI (11 replies)
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[+] Official Announcement - Reinhold Messner/PA (11 replies)
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