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Abstractors A Go Go - Deborah Manion/VA
11/22/2010 2:29:54 PM (4738 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Linda/NJ
11/22/2010 3:02:36 PM (4097 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Linda/NJ
11/22/2010 3:07:02 PM (4019 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Linda/NJ
11/22/2010 3:23:45 PM (3971 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Jason Knowles/AL
11/24/2010 2:28:08 PM (3852 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - maria santorello/NY
11/23/2010 6:03:18 PM (3917 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Abstractopia/NJ
11/24/2010 9:48:18 AM (3849 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - LINDA/NJ
11/23/2010 4:45:52 PM (3924 views)
Abstractors A Go Gone - Elizabeth Helman/PA
11/23/2010 7:40:16 PM (4010 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - maria santorello/NY
11/23/2010 6:06:34 PM (3926 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Jessica Talley/NJ
11/24/2010 8:48:12 AM (3887 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - K C/NJ
11/24/2010 10:04:26 AM (3831 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Jessica Talley/NJ
11/24/2010 10:42:15 PM (4193 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - maria santorello/NY
11/30/2010 11:03:17 AM (3662 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - KC/NJ
11/30/2010 10:17:15 PM (3608 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Robert Franco/OH
11/24/2010 10:12:24 AM (3775 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Deborah Manion/VA
11/24/2010 11:43:19 AM (3652 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Dave Pelligrinelli/GA
12/1/2010 11:29:25 AM (3469 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Jessica Talley/NJ
12/2/2010 3:51:35 PM (3523 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - JEANETTE LEMONS/WA
11/29/2010 10:15:36 AM (3634 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Jessica Talley/NJ
12/2/2010 3:58:59 PM (3547 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - maria santorello/NY
11/30/2010 10:54:51 AM (3692 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Leigh Attridge/MA
11/30/2010 2:30:30 PM (3705 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Topians/NJ
11/30/2010 10:19:17 PM (3610 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - K C/NJ
12/1/2010 12:16:52 PM (3537 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - K C/NJ
11/30/2010 10:34:22 PM (3505 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Robert Franco/OH
12/1/2010 10:01:38 AM (3588 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - The Former GoGo-ers/NJ
12/1/2010 11:58:58 AM (3805 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - robbin roseberry/OH
12/1/2010 3:44:05 PM (3750 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Ken Ungarsohn/NJ
12/1/2010 4:18:00 PM (3636 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Linda/NJ
12/1/2010 4:41:09 PM (3556 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - K C/NJ
12/1/2010 4:47:18 PM (3536 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Jessica Talley/NJ
12/2/2010 4:26:41 PM (3620 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Leigh Attridge/MA
12/2/2010 4:47:04 PM (3555 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - K C
12/2/2010 6:14:35 PM (3571 views)

Oh Jessica, Jessica, you couldn't resist could you?  I've kept you out of it (and even agreed with you) but you had to attack me at some point.  And even after we ignored your little hate mail so many months ago - sad.  I'd decided to let this whole thread die in the interest of this community but alas, I must make one last post.  Linda and I were telling facts, not ranting.  But since you've made this personal... Lets look at the real facts (and not delusions told you by your friend), and then I'm done with this:

1. FACT - Ken had the audacity to bring 'god' into it and bless people for the sins and lies of truthfully telling they weren't paid and those of us who know where the money went and how he ran his business.  As I said, i'm NOT religious and I find that sickening.  HE brought religion into a discussion where it had no place... so again, I agree with you.

2. FACT - I do not own a company, nor do I receive any compensation from Abstractopia in any way. 

3. FACT - We do not have a bookkeeper.  We don't need someone on staff full time to have them not pay people, Linda was Ken's bookkeeper and that was her role as dictated by him.

4. FACT = Ken was completely responsible for losing his clients on his own.  If your business is strong, someone opening anywhere who covers your area shouldn't affect your business if you've serviced your clients well, which I know you'd agree with because I perceive you run your business this way (see - I can still speak rationally to you despite your attack - I respect your ability as a businessperson regardless of your friendship with Ken). If your business is well run, one competitor shouldn't have you shutting your doors within a year! 

There was no stealing, I'm no thief nor am I dishonest - SOT provided us with all the resources and advertising abilities we needed to get started.  It wasn't until Ken screwed US on a rush order that we had back in an hour, which he knew, then cancelled on us and refused to take calls that we ever had a single client in common so your 'facts' are erroneous- I doubt you know that story.  Ken would like to believe we came in the night and stole all his clients (sorry, that still makes me laugh) but I know 100%, we only had 3 in common when he closed.  The others we have he did NOT have when Linda was fired in October.  We run our business well, communicate well, give good phone and joke with our abstractors and clients - we don't need to steal.

We've picked up a few from my post in the MarketPlace and when I learned he CLOSED, I finally solicited some I knew who were good pay.  Oh wait, I have a quote here from one of our shared clients while we were discussing GoGo's closure just yesterday and it really points out what great relations he had with his clients (odd wording is not mine, i copied/pasted):  I hate to say this because it’s kinda I’m not disappointed they are gone. It was a nightmare working with them

Before you start preaching the truth - you should learn it because you're being fed The Imaginary World According To Ken.  I'm glad you asked for the truth, now you have the real story.  I've seen it myself - he blames everyone but himself.  Blame Linda for not paying people he told her not to pay. Blame everyone in the office for his mistakes. Blame me, the horrible client relations person/sales person for stealing his clients (how's THAT work out rationally?  I sucked so bad he fired me but I'm so good I can steal all his clients and drive his business into the ground singlehandedly?)

We all worked there because the economy sucked and no one else was hiring.  I don't think anyone out there with two degrees and a long successful career in various facets of real estate (and as a previous business owner) would have expected to end up working in some guy's basement with centipedes, and to be condescended to and berated daily.  Even the 20-somethings who worked there didn't deserve such treatment.  I would have gladly cleaned out kennels iinstead (and believe me I applied) but everywhere I went I was over-qualified and over-educated.  Fortunately or unfortunately, Ken discounted my extensive knowledge in real estate (said it didn't apply to their business), overlooked that I'd been a business owner, overlooked my resume in general or I would never have had the pleasure of being a verbally abused basement dweller making wages i hadn't made since my Freshman year of college. 

Oddly enough?  The reason I didn't leave was because I felt loyalty to his clients.  I felt personally responsible for getting orders back, for keeping up promises, for trying to run it like my own business.  Everywhere I've ever worked, I've always personally invested myself in doing my job right.  I finally put stickies above my desk admonishing myself "Shut up, don't make suggestions."  "It's not your business, stop caring."  We argued less when I tried to care less.

Jessica - the sad thing is we  would probably get along fine if you didn't have this inconceivable need to defend Ken and take his word as gospel.  I've never said anything negative about you and I've agreed with you at at times.  You've sent me hate mail and now gone on a rant against me personally.  Other that this facet of your personality, you've seemed generally reasonable and pleasant.  I'm glad I have this amazing ability to stay away from the computer when I'm angry with someone, then again, I'm not easily angered and certainly not easily baited into making myself look petty by attacking you personally.  YOU requested the truth, well, you got it.

Everyone else, Robert included - sorry to take up your valuable professional forum with this kind of nonsense.  This is the end of it for me. 

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Re: Abstractors A Go Go - robbin roseberry/OH
12/2/2010 9:56:24 AM (3574 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Susan Raynard/MA
12/6/2010 4:54:25 PM (3544 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Cliff Boltz/VA
12/8/2010 11:14:59 AM (3379 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Linda/NJ
12/8/2010 2:54:12 PM (3549 views)

Questions on copies - Dan Zook/NY
11/19/2010 4:34:55 PM (3601 views)
Re: Questions on copies - Slade Smith/OH
11/19/2010 5:28:26 PM (3888 views)
That reminds me... - Robert Franco/OH
11/19/2010 5:49:25 PM (6640 views)
speaking of copies.... - Alix Ott/MI
11/22/2010 8:14:34 AM (3786 views)
Re: speaking of copies.... - Robert Franco/OH
11/22/2010 9:17:51 AM (3843 views)
Re: speaking of copies.... - Diane Brewer/SC
11/22/2010 9:52:13 AM (3782 views)
Re: speaking of copies.... - Alix Ott/MI
11/22/2010 10:15:19 AM (3779 views)
Solution - William Pattison /CA
11/22/2010 11:31:51 AM (3856 views)
Re: Solution - Alix Ott/MI
11/22/2010 1:30:54 PM (3612 views)
Re: speaking of copies.... - Amy Jensen/OR
11/30/2010 2:53:12 PM (3502 views)

New FNMA Guidelines - Leigh Attridge/MA
11/19/2010 8:36:53 AM (4479 views)

Fiber optic outage... - Robert Franco/OH
11/18/2010 9:49:10 AM (3088 views)

Non-Judicial Foreclosure Misposts - William Pattison /CA
11/16/2010 1:07:25 AM (3465 views)
Re: Non-Judicial Foreclosure Misposts - Slade Smith/OH
11/16/2010 1:33:26 PM (3867 views)
Re: Non-Judicial Foreclosure Misposts - William Pattison /CA
11/16/2010 3:38:55 PM (3828 views)
Re: Non-Judicial Foreclosure Misposts - Slade Smith/OH
11/16/2010 4:57:03 PM (3948 views)
Re: Non-Judicial Foreclosure Misposts - William Pattison /CA
11/17/2010 10:02:42 AM (3834 views)
Re: Non-Judicial Foreclosure Misposts - Slade Smith/OH
11/17/2010 11:46:35 AM (3911 views)
Re: Non-Judicial Foreclosure Misposts - William Pattison /CA
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NREIS - Richard Primmer/RI
11/15/2010 6:26:25 PM (3657 views)
Re: NREIS - Barbara /FL
11/22/2010 8:39:38 AM (3815 views)

Taking Care of our Abstractors... - Jaime  Kosofsky/NC
11/13/2010 9:27:24 PM (3596 views)
Re: Taking Care of our Abstractors... - Diane Brewer/SC
11/16/2010 9:57:27 AM (3721 views)

Foreclosure fun in the Bay State - Deborah Manion/VA
11/12/2010 10:35:30 AM (4515 views)

fee - iveta todora/VA
11/12/2010 10:26:58 AM (3556 views)
Re: fee - Robert Franco/OH
11/12/2010 11:18:13 AM (4173 views)
Re: fee - K C/NJ
11/19/2010 1:35:05 PM (3875 views)
Re: fee - Dan Zook/NY
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Re: fee - Alix Ott/MI
11/22/2010 8:37:59 AM (3901 views)

Lenders Allies - Cherie Smurthwaite/CA
11/11/2010 7:53:46 PM (6130 views)
Re: Lenders Allies - Donna Stovall/NY
11/22/2010 7:39:23 AM (4695 views)
Re: Lenders Allies - Cherie Smurthwaite/CA
11/22/2010 7:28:14 PM (5317 views)

DataChek - Kurt deVries/FL
11/10/2010 2:00:00 PM (3707 views)
Re: DataChek - Jessica Talley/NJ
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Re: DataChek - Jessica Talley/NJ
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Re: DataChek - Kurt deVries/FL
11/11/2010 11:03:34 AM (4011 views)
Re: DataChek - Michael Vernon/AZ
11/15/2010 12:51:17 PM (3855 views)

New HUD-1 title fees accounting - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
11/10/2010 11:39:26 AM (3531 views)
Re: New HUD-1 title fees accounting - Robert Franco/OH
11/10/2010 11:58:44 AM (7732 views)
Re: New HUD-1 title fees accounting - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
11/10/2010 2:05:54 PM (4023 views)
Re: New HUD-1 title fees accounting - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
11/10/2010 5:50:53 PM (3843 views)
Re: New HUD-1 title fees accounting - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
11/11/2010 11:36:03 AM (4323 views)
Re: New HUD-1 title fees accounting - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
11/13/2010 11:08:38 PM (4102 views)
Re: New HUD-1 title fees accounting - Diane Brewer/SC
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Re: New HUD-1 title fees accounting - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
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Re: New HUD-1 title fees accounting - Patrick Scott/IL
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Re: New HUD-1 title fees accounting - Donna McCullough/SC
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Re: New HUD-1 title fees accounting - Donna McCullough/SC
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Re: New HUD-1 title fees accounting - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
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A change is coming... - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: A change is coming... - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
11/10/2010 11:31:13 AM (4159 views)
Re: A change is coming... - Leigh Attridge/MA
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Re: A change is coming... - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: A change is coming... - Celia Franklin/GA
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Re: A change is coming... - Diane Brewer/SC
11/16/2010 9:46:49 AM (3903 views)
Re: A change is coming... - K C/NJ
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Re: A change is coming... - Alix Ott/MI
11/22/2010 8:45:59 AM (3775 views)

alvey - melissa smith/VA
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Re: alvey - Deborah Manion/VA
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Re: alvey - Robert Franco/OH
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Mr. Avley is Alive and Well... - Robert Franco/OH
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Foreclosure Action Dismissed - FJ Vacated AFTER CT Issued - PAULA DEEM  REYNOLDS/FL
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translation please - Deborah Manion/VA
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Re: translation please - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
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Re: Foreclosure Action Dismissed - FJ Vacated AFTER CT Issued - PAULA DEEM  REYNOLDS/FL
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