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How far to go in explaining an order - Alix Ott/MI
11/22/2010 3:07:28 PM (3563 views)
Re: How far to go in explaining an order - Robert Franco/OH
11/22/2010 3:35:07 PM (3877 views)
Re: How far to go in explaining an order - K C/NJ
11/22/2010 6:04:22 PM (3863 views)
Re: How far to go in explaining an order - Richard Olson/MD
11/24/2010 9:10:34 AM (3683 views)
Re: How far to go in explaining an order - Robert Franco/OH
11/24/2010 9:58:01 AM (3782 views)
Re: How far to go in explaining an order - Richard Olson/MD
11/24/2010 10:29:41 AM (3764 views)
Re: How far to go in explaining an order - Robert Franco/OH
11/24/2010 10:39:56 AM (4221 views)
Agree with Essentials - William Pattison 
11/24/2010 12:37:01 PM (3732 views)
Re: How far to go in explaining an order - Jessica Talley/NJ
11/24/2010 9:51:07 PM (3652 views)
Re: How far to go in explaining an order - William Pattison /CA
11/24/2010 11:42:02 AM (3681 views)
Thank you, everyone! - Alix Ott/MI
11/29/2010 7:06:00 AM (3681 views)

Abstractors A Go Go - Deborah Manion/VA
11/22/2010 2:29:54 PM (4655 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Linda/NJ
11/22/2010 3:02:36 PM (3835 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Linda/NJ
11/22/2010 3:07:02 PM (3750 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Linda/NJ
11/22/2010 3:23:45 PM (3706 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Jason Knowles/AL
11/24/2010 2:28:08 PM (3570 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - maria santorello/NY
11/23/2010 6:03:18 PM (3645 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Abstractopia/NJ
11/24/2010 9:48:18 AM (3574 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - LINDA/NJ
11/23/2010 4:45:52 PM (3655 views)
Abstractors A Go Gone - Elizabeth Helman/PA
11/23/2010 7:40:16 PM (3738 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - maria santorello/NY
11/23/2010 6:06:34 PM (3645 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Jessica Talley/NJ
11/24/2010 8:48:12 AM (3614 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - K C/NJ
11/24/2010 10:04:26 AM (3563 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Jessica Talley/NJ
11/24/2010 10:42:15 PM (3922 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - maria santorello/NY
11/30/2010 11:03:17 AM (3383 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - KC/NJ
11/30/2010 10:17:15 PM (3333 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Robert Franco/OH
11/24/2010 10:12:24 AM (3508 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Deborah Manion/VA
11/24/2010 11:43:19 AM (3378 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Dave Pelligrinelli/GA
12/1/2010 11:29:25 AM (3194 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Jessica Talley/NJ
12/2/2010 3:51:35 PM (3258 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - JEANETTE LEMONS/WA
11/29/2010 10:15:36 AM (3360 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Jessica Talley/NJ
12/2/2010 3:58:59 PM (3274 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - maria santorello/NY
11/30/2010 10:54:51 AM (3409 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Leigh Attridge/MA
11/30/2010 2:30:30 PM (3431 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Topians/NJ
11/30/2010 10:19:17 PM (3340 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - K C/NJ
12/1/2010 12:16:52 PM (3247 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - K C/NJ
11/30/2010 10:34:22 PM (3229 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Robert Franco/OH
12/1/2010 10:01:38 AM (3315 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - The Former GoGo-ers/NJ
12/1/2010 11:58:58 AM (3527 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - robbin roseberry/OH
12/1/2010 3:44:05 PM (3469 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Ken Ungarsohn/NJ
12/1/2010 4:18:00 PM (3368 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Linda/NJ
12/1/2010 4:41:09 PM (3282 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - K C/NJ
12/1/2010 4:47:18 PM (3252 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Jessica Talley/NJ
12/2/2010 4:26:41 PM (3353 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Leigh Attridge/MA
12/2/2010 4:47:04 PM (3264 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - K C
12/2/2010 6:14:35 PM (3303 views)

Oh Jessica, Jessica, you couldn't resist could you?  I've kept you out of it (and even agreed with you) but you had to attack me at some point.  And even after we ignored your little hate mail so many months ago - sad.  I'd decided to let this whole thread die in the interest of this community but alas, I must make one last post.  Linda and I were telling facts, not ranting.  But since you've made this personal... Lets look at the real facts (and not delusions told you by your friend), and then I'm done with this:

1. FACT - Ken had the audacity to bring 'god' into it and bless people for the sins and lies of truthfully telling they weren't paid and those of us who know where the money went and how he ran his business.  As I said, i'm NOT religious and I find that sickening.  HE brought religion into a discussion where it had no place... so again, I agree with you.

2. FACT - I do not own a company, nor do I receive any compensation from Abstractopia in any way. 

3. FACT - We do not have a bookkeeper.  We don't need someone on staff full time to have them not pay people, Linda was Ken's bookkeeper and that was her role as dictated by him.

4. FACT = Ken was completely responsible for losing his clients on his own.  If your business is strong, someone opening anywhere who covers your area shouldn't affect your business if you've serviced your clients well, which I know you'd agree with because I perceive you run your business this way (see - I can still speak rationally to you despite your attack - I respect your ability as a businessperson regardless of your friendship with Ken). If your business is well run, one competitor shouldn't have you shutting your doors within a year! 

There was no stealing, I'm no thief nor am I dishonest - SOT provided us with all the resources and advertising abilities we needed to get started.  It wasn't until Ken screwed US on a rush order that we had back in an hour, which he knew, then cancelled on us and refused to take calls that we ever had a single client in common so your 'facts' are erroneous- I doubt you know that story.  Ken would like to believe we came in the night and stole all his clients (sorry, that still makes me laugh) but I know 100%, we only had 3 in common when he closed.  The others we have he did NOT have when Linda was fired in October.  We run our business well, communicate well, give good phone and joke with our abstractors and clients - we don't need to steal.

We've picked up a few from my post in the MarketPlace and when I learned he CLOSED, I finally solicited some I knew who were good pay.  Oh wait, I have a quote here from one of our shared clients while we were discussing GoGo's closure just yesterday and it really points out what great relations he had with his clients (odd wording is not mine, i copied/pasted):  I hate to say this because it’s kinda I’m not disappointed they are gone. It was a nightmare working with them

Before you start preaching the truth - you should learn it because you're being fed The Imaginary World According To Ken.  I'm glad you asked for the truth, now you have the real story.  I've seen it myself - he blames everyone but himself.  Blame Linda for not paying people he told her not to pay. Blame everyone in the office for his mistakes. Blame me, the horrible client relations person/sales person for stealing his clients (how's THAT work out rationally?  I sucked so bad he fired me but I'm so good I can steal all his clients and drive his business into the ground singlehandedly?)

We all worked there because the economy sucked and no one else was hiring.  I don't think anyone out there with two degrees and a long successful career in various facets of real estate (and as a previous business owner) would have expected to end up working in some guy's basement with centipedes, and to be condescended to and berated daily.  Even the 20-somethings who worked there didn't deserve such treatment.  I would have gladly cleaned out kennels iinstead (and believe me I applied) but everywhere I went I was over-qualified and over-educated.  Fortunately or unfortunately, Ken discounted my extensive knowledge in real estate (said it didn't apply to their business), overlooked that I'd been a business owner, overlooked my resume in general or I would never have had the pleasure of being a verbally abused basement dweller making wages i hadn't made since my Freshman year of college. 

Oddly enough?  The reason I didn't leave was because I felt loyalty to his clients.  I felt personally responsible for getting orders back, for keeping up promises, for trying to run it like my own business.  Everywhere I've ever worked, I've always personally invested myself in doing my job right.  I finally put stickies above my desk admonishing myself "Shut up, don't make suggestions."  "It's not your business, stop caring."  We argued less when I tried to care less.

Jessica - the sad thing is we  would probably get along fine if you didn't have this inconceivable need to defend Ken and take his word as gospel.  I've never said anything negative about you and I've agreed with you at at times.  You've sent me hate mail and now gone on a rant against me personally.  Other that this facet of your personality, you've seemed generally reasonable and pleasant.  I'm glad I have this amazing ability to stay away from the computer when I'm angry with someone, then again, I'm not easily angered and certainly not easily baited into making myself look petty by attacking you personally.  YOU requested the truth, well, you got it.

Everyone else, Robert included - sorry to take up your valuable professional forum with this kind of nonsense.  This is the end of it for me. 

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Re: Abstractors A Go Go - robbin roseberry/OH
12/2/2010 9:56:24 AM (3293 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Susan Raynard/MA
12/6/2010 4:54:25 PM (3279 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Cliff Boltz/VA
12/8/2010 11:14:59 AM (3103 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Linda/NJ
12/8/2010 2:54:12 PM (3258 views)

Questions on copies - Dan Zook/NY
11/19/2010 4:34:55 PM (3528 views)
Re: Questions on copies - Slade Smith/OH
11/19/2010 5:28:26 PM (3625 views)
That reminds me... - Robert Franco/OH
11/19/2010 5:49:25 PM (6368 views)
speaking of copies.... - Alix Ott/MI
11/22/2010 8:14:34 AM (3514 views)
Re: speaking of copies.... - Robert Franco/OH
11/22/2010 9:17:51 AM (3560 views)
Re: speaking of copies.... - Diane Brewer/SC
11/22/2010 9:52:13 AM (3514 views)
Re: speaking of copies.... - Alix Ott/MI
11/22/2010 10:15:19 AM (3515 views)
Solution - William Pattison /CA
11/22/2010 11:31:51 AM (3585 views)
Re: Solution - Alix Ott/MI
11/22/2010 1:30:54 PM (3349 views)
Re: speaking of copies.... - Amy Jensen/OR
11/30/2010 2:53:12 PM (3223 views)

New FNMA Guidelines - Leigh Attridge/MA
11/19/2010 8:36:53 AM (4407 views)

Fiber optic outage... - Robert Franco/OH
11/18/2010 9:49:10 AM (3026 views)




Non-Judicial Foreclosure Misposts - William Pattison /CA
11/16/2010 1:07:25 AM (3404 views)
Re: Non-Judicial Foreclosure Misposts - Slade Smith/OH
11/16/2010 1:33:26 PM (3596 views)
Re: Non-Judicial Foreclosure Misposts - William Pattison /CA
11/16/2010 3:38:55 PM (3599 views)
Re: Non-Judicial Foreclosure Misposts - Slade Smith/OH
11/16/2010 4:57:03 PM (3704 views)
Re: Non-Judicial Foreclosure Misposts - William Pattison /CA
11/17/2010 10:02:42 AM (3573 views)
Re: Non-Judicial Foreclosure Misposts - Slade Smith/OH
11/17/2010 11:46:35 AM (3665 views)
Re: Non-Judicial Foreclosure Misposts - William Pattison /CA
11/17/2010 2:37:01 PM (3676 views)

NREIS - Richard Primmer/RI
11/15/2010 6:26:25 PM (3600 views)
Re: NREIS - Barbara /FL
11/22/2010 8:39:38 AM (3613 views)

Taking Care of our Abstractors... - Jaime  Kosofsky/NC
11/13/2010 9:27:24 PM (3524 views)
Re: Taking Care of our Abstractors... - Diane Brewer/SC
11/16/2010 9:57:27 AM (3524 views)

Foreclosure fun in the Bay State - Deborah Manion/VA
11/12/2010 10:35:30 AM (4446 views)

fee - iveta todora/VA
11/12/2010 10:26:58 AM (3494 views)
Re: fee - Robert Franco/OH
11/12/2010 11:18:13 AM (3955 views)
Re: fee - K C/NJ
11/19/2010 1:35:05 PM (3655 views)
Re: fee - Dan Zook/NY
11/19/2010 4:16:38 PM (3665 views)
Re: fee - Alix Ott/MI
11/22/2010 8:37:59 AM (3651 views)

Lenders Allies - Cherie Smurthwaite/CA
11/11/2010 7:53:46 PM (6062 views)
Re: Lenders Allies - Donna Stovall/NY
11/22/2010 7:39:23 AM (4461 views)
Re: Lenders Allies - Cherie Smurthwaite/CA
11/22/2010 7:28:14 PM (5080 views)

DataChek - Kurt deVries/FL
11/10/2010 2:00:00 PM (3627 views)
Re: DataChek - Jessica Talley/NJ
11/10/2010 5:30:31 PM (3864 views)
Re: DataChek - Ron McPherson/IA
11/11/2010 12:57:23 AM (3878 views)
Re: DataChek - Jessica Talley/NJ
11/11/2010 1:06:37 AM (3766 views)
Re: DataChek - Kurt deVries/FL
11/11/2010 11:03:34 AM (3794 views)
Re: DataChek - Michael Vernon/AZ
11/15/2010 12:51:17 PM (3648 views)

New HUD-1 title fees accounting - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
11/10/2010 11:39:26 AM (3439 views)
Re: New HUD-1 title fees accounting - Robert Franco/OH
11/10/2010 11:58:44 AM (7472 views)
Re: New HUD-1 title fees accounting - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
11/10/2010 2:05:54 PM (3787 views)
Re: New HUD-1 title fees accounting - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
11/10/2010 5:50:53 PM (3616 views)
Re: New HUD-1 title fees accounting - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
11/11/2010 11:36:03 AM (4075 views)
Re: New HUD-1 title fees accounting - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
11/13/2010 11:08:38 PM (3873 views)
Re: New HUD-1 title fees accounting - Diane Brewer/SC
11/16/2010 9:54:22 AM (3939 views)
Re: New HUD-1 title fees accounting - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
11/20/2010 12:38:21 PM (3633 views)
Re: New HUD-1 title fees accounting - Patrick Scott/IL
11/20/2010 9:06:37 PM (3679 views)
Re: New HUD-1 title fees accounting - Donna McCullough/SC
11/22/2010 6:54:40 PM (3624 views)
Re: New HUD-1 title fees accounting - Donna McCullough/SC
11/22/2010 7:00:44 PM (3675 views)
Re: New HUD-1 title fees accounting - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
11/23/2010 7:30:14 PM (3782 views)

A change is coming... - Robert Franco/OH
11/10/2010 11:26:20 AM (3813 views)
Re: A change is coming... - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
11/10/2010 11:31:13 AM (3877 views)
Re: A change is coming... - Leigh Attridge/MA
11/10/2010 12:06:03 PM (3804 views)
Re: A change is coming... - Robert Franco/OH
11/10/2010 12:12:41 PM (3924 views)
Re: A change is coming... - Ryan Scioli/NJ
11/11/2010 10:25:23 AM (3742 views)
Re: A change is coming... - Matt Papsch/MD
11/11/2010 12:54:03 PM (3716 views)
Re: A change is coming... - Celia Franklin/GA
11/12/2010 7:32:38 PM (3718 views)
Re: A change is coming... - Diane Brewer/SC
11/16/2010 9:46:49 AM (3649 views)
Re: A change is coming... - K C/NJ
11/19/2010 3:54:24 PM (3523 views)
Re: A change is coming... - Alix Ott/MI
11/22/2010 8:45:59 AM (3536 views)

alvey - melissa smith/VA
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Re: alvey - Deborah Manion/VA
11/10/2010 9:07:16 AM (3970 views)
Re: alvey - Leigh Attridge/MA
11/10/2010 10:04:44 AM (3805 views)
Re: alvey - Robert Franco/OH
11/10/2010 10:20:30 AM (3860 views)
Re: alvey - Leigh Attridge/MA
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Re: alvey - Slade Smith/OH
11/10/2010 10:32:17 AM (3787 views)
Mr. Avley is Alive and Well... - Robert Franco/OH
11/10/2010 10:53:58 AM (3794 views)
Re: Mr. Avley is Alive and Well... - Anon/OH
11/10/2010 7:37:38 PM (3868 views)


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