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Oh, Really, you think all this oversight is foreclosure makes a difference? - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
11/1/2010 3:07:44 PM (3039 views)
Re: Oh, Really, you think all this oversight is foreclosure makes a difference? - William Pattison /CA
11/1/2010 3:34:40 PM (3236 views)
Re: Oh, Really, you think all this oversight is foreclosure makes a difference? - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
11/1/2010 4:04:31 PM (3079 views)
Re: Oh, Really, you think all this oversight is foreclosure makes a difference? - Bill Garrett/MS
11/1/2010 7:03:47 PM (3069 views)
Re: Oh, Really, you think all this oversight is foreclosure makes a difference? - Leigh Attridge/MA
11/2/2010 8:30:43 AM (3267 views)
Re: Oh, Really, you think all this oversight is foreclosure makes a difference? - Robert Franco/OH
11/2/2010 9:56:33 AM (3098 views)
Re: Oh, Really, you think all this oversight is foreclosure makes a difference? - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
11/2/2010 10:47:31 AM (3057 views)
Re: Oh, Really, you think all this oversight is foreclosure makes a difference? - Slade Smith/OH
11/2/2010 12:21:41 PM (3080 views)
Re: Oh, Really, you think all this oversight is foreclosure makes a difference? - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
11/2/2010 2:54:59 PM (3080 views)
CA Notary Law - William Pattison /CA
11/5/2010 3:49:38 PM (3016 views)

Big Talk....Still No Check from ABSTRAX, LLC - Jean Allen/NC
10/31/2010 10:43:48 AM (7780 views)
Re: Big Talk....Still No Check from ABSTRAX, LLC - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/31/2010 12:50:19 PM (3638 views)
Re: Big Talk....Still No Check from ABSTRAX, LLC - Jean Allen/NC
10/31/2010 7:02:15 PM (3408 views)
Re: Big Talk....Still No Check from ABSTRAX, LLC - K C/NJ
11/1/2010 10:57:52 AM (3671 views)
Re: Big Talk....Still No Check from ABSTRAX, LLC - RICHARD KING/RI
11/1/2010 12:28:03 PM (3602 views)
Re: Big Talk....Still No Check from ABSTRAX, LLC - RICHARD KING/RI
11/1/2010 12:35:45 PM (3903 views)
Re: Big Talk....Still No Check from ABSTRAX, LLC - RICHARD KING/RI
11/1/2010 12:35:46 PM (3585 views)

May I make a suggestion? - Nils Nelson/ME
10/30/2010 8:03:43 PM (3493 views)
Re: May I make a suggestion? - George Booth/OH
10/31/2010 9:26:17 AM (3157 views)
Re: May I make a suggestion? - Kevin Ahern/CT
10/31/2010 12:41:20 PM (3048 views)
Re: May I make a suggestion? - Nils Nelson/ME
10/31/2010 1:28:30 PM (3167 views)
Re: May I make a suggestion? - George Booth/OH
10/31/2010 4:42:33 PM (3086 views)
Re: May I make a suggestion? - K C/NJ
11/1/2010 10:59:52 AM (2984 views)
Re: May I make a suggestion? - William Pattison /CA
11/1/2010 12:35:53 PM (3039 views)
Re: May I make a suggestion? - K C/NJ
11/1/2010 8:34:16 PM (2922 views)
Re: May I make a suggestion? - Slade Smith/OH
11/1/2010 2:39:55 PM (2938 views)
Re: May I make a suggestion? - Nils Nelson/ME
11/1/2010 3:29:37 PM (2940 views)
Re: May I make a suggestion? - Dan Zook/NY
11/1/2010 4:10:02 PM (2861 views)
Re: May I make a suggestion? - K C/NJ
11/1/2010 8:45:44 PM (2928 views)
Re: May I make a suggestion? - Nils Nelson/ME
11/2/2010 12:40:08 PM (2921 views)

SOT IS JOKE - Robert Alvey/VA
10/30/2010 7:55:24 PM (3806 views)
Re: SOT IS JOKE - Matt Papsch
10/31/2010 10:47:14 AM (3284 views)
Re: ROBERT ALVEY IS "A" JOKE - Scott Perry/PA
10/31/2010 2:55:02 PM (3315 views)
Re: ROBERT ALVEY IS "A" JOKE - Jean Allen/NC
10/31/2010 7:00:20 PM (3314 views)
Re: SOT IS JOKE - Jessica Talley/NJ
11/1/2010 9:03:26 AM (3038 views)
Re: SOT IS JOKE - K C/NJ
11/1/2010 10:54:00 AM (3072 views)
Re: SOT IS JOKE - William Pattison /CA
11/1/2010 12:33:42 PM (3097 views)
Re: SOT IS JOKE - Sheila Sten/PA
11/1/2010 7:36:30 PM (3200 views)
Re: SOT IS JOKE - Scott Perry/PA
11/2/2010 12:32:12 AM (3079 views)

abstractor info - Robert Alvey/VA
10/30/2010 3:41:54 PM (3726 views)
Re: abstractor info - Janis Talbot/SC
11/1/2010 6:02:00 PM (3063 views)
Re: abstractor info - Jessica Talley/NJ
11/2/2010 2:25:36 PM (3045 views)
VERY INTERESTING - William Pattison /CA
11/5/2010 4:02:57 PM (2850 views)




To Matt - Robert Alvey/VA
10/30/2010 3:33:37 PM (3276 views)
Re: To Matt - Matt Papsch/MD
10/31/2010 10:42:37 AM (3040 views)

who cares - Robert Alvey/VA
10/30/2010 3:15:10 PM (3434 views)
Re: who cares - George Booth/OH
10/30/2010 5:42:41 PM (3159 views)
Re: who cares - Robert Alvey/VA
10/30/2010 7:48:11 PM (3237 views)
Re: who cares - Robert Alvey/VA
10/30/2010 7:49:34 PM (3086 views)
Thank You, Mr. Alvey - Scott Perry/PA
10/31/2010 3:46:21 PM (3200 views)
Re: Thank You, Mr. Alvey - George Booth/OH
10/31/2010 4:44:45 PM (3164 views)
Re: Thank You, Mr. Alvey - Kurt deVries/FL
11/1/2010 12:17:55 PM (2949 views)
Re: who cares - Constance Foye/VA
11/1/2010 12:18:32 PM (2960 views)

What if - Leigh Attridge/MA
10/30/2010 9:54:27 AM (3114 views)
Re: What if - Patrick Scott/IL
10/30/2010 8:43:10 PM (2932 views)
Re: What if - Leigh Attridge/MA
10/30/2010 8:59:39 PM (2941 views)
Re: What if - Robert Franco/OH
10/31/2010 4:56:57 PM (2872 views)
Re: What if - Leigh Attridge/MA
10/31/2010 5:37:58 PM (2831 views)
Re: What if - Bill Garrett/MS
11/1/2010 10:20:51 AM (2755 views)
Re: What if - Leigh Attridge/MA
11/1/2010 10:37:39 AM (2810 views)
Re: What if - Jessica Talley/NJ
11/1/2010 12:12:22 PM (2723 views)
Re: What if - William Pattison /CA
11/1/2010 12:14:29 PM (2683 views)
Re: What if - Robert Franco/OH
11/1/2010 12:26:53 PM (2752 views)
Re: What if - Leigh Attridge/MA
11/1/2010 12:53:02 PM (2768 views)
Re: What if - Marian Littleton/VA
11/1/2010 3:29:40 PM (2783 views)
Re: What if - Robert Franco/OH
11/1/2010 3:49:37 PM (2814 views)
Re: What if - Leigh Attridge/MA
11/1/2010 7:39:37 PM (2726 views)
Re: What if - Marian's post - Constance Foye/VA
11/10/2010 9:33:09 PM (2777 views)
Re: What if - Marian's post - STEVE MEINECKE/TN
11/11/2010 11:45:17 AM (2710 views)

MERS and DC FORECLOSURES - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
10/29/2010 9:49:29 AM (5338 views)
Re: MERS and DC FORECLOSURES - Leigh Attridge/MA
10/29/2010 10:33:16 AM (3000 views)
Re: MERS and DC FORECLOSURES - George Booth/OH
10/29/2010 10:39:11 AM (3034 views)
Re: MERS and DC FORECLOSURES - Slade Smith/OH
10/29/2010 11:42:59 AM (3146 views)

According to this, "each deed or other document transferring a mortgage interest must be filed with the Recorder of Deeds within 30 days of execution."  Execution, as I look it up in a legal dictionary, means the completion and formal signing of a document, such as a deed, contract, or lease.  So, depending on how you read this, it seems like the after-the-fact assignments could still be legal, so long as the actual documents are filed within 30 days of being signed and notarized.  I'm not sure about this, though.  If the electronic assignments within MERS are considered "documents", then it sounds like they'd have to be filed within 30 days of the actual creation of the record in MERS.  I think that they need these electronic transfers to be considered "documents" in other contexts, so my hunch is that mortgage transfers by MERS alone and not filed in the public record are not legal.

I'm still going to stand by my general position here, until and unless I'm pushed off it.  If laws prohibiting after the fact recording of mortgage assignments were widespread, I would have suspected that we woule have seen foreclosure defense attorneys bringing up laws like this when attacking foreclosure documents, if such laws existed.  I have yet to see this line of attack used even once, and I do make the rounds of the foreclosure defense sites not infrequently.  I do not definitively know the law in every jurisdiction, and never claimed that knowledge. While this new information is definitely on point and calls into question the validity of my argument as it applies to DC specifically,  I'm not sure this flies in the face of my general belief that after the fact mortgage assignments are probably legal in at least most states.  I do not definitively know the law in all states, and I'm not claiming that I do-- I merely challenged Robert to cite such a law, because I didn't think he had the goods that the practice which he was complaining about was not perfectly legal, and meanwhile he was arguing for technical adherence to law elsewhere.

 

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Cite what law? - Robert Franco/OH
10/29/2010 3:23:24 PM (2991 views)
Re: Cite what law? - Slade Smith
10/29/2010 3:27:10 PM (2923 views)
Re: Cite what law? - Robert Franco/OH
10/29/2010 4:53:00 PM (3723 views)
Re: MERS and DC FORECLOSURES - Leigh Attridge/MA
10/29/2010 12:35:07 PM (5548 views)
Re: MERS and DC FORECLOSURES - Slade Smith/OH
10/29/2010 3:02:19 PM (6587 views)

Comment on "Community Development Director Commits Fraud in Role as Title Company Owner" - Source of Title/OH
10/29/2010 9:44:27 AM (2879 views)
Fraud in Gary - Gloria Eldridge/IN
10/29/2010 9:44:27 AM (7791 views)
Re: Fraud in Gary - Slade Smith/OH
10/29/2010 11:01:54 AM (7932 views)
Re: Fraud in Gary - Gloria Eldridge/IN
10/29/2010 11:13:50 AM (7747 views)

Title info - Robert Alvey/VA
10/29/2010 1:36:32 AM (3241 views)
Re: Title info - Matt Papsch/MD
10/29/2010 4:06:07 AM (3209 views)
Re: Title info - Robert Alvey/VA
10/30/2010 3:05:27 PM (3004 views)
Re: Title info - Robert Alvey/VA
10/30/2010 3:23:30 PM (2997 views)
Re: Title info - George Booth/OH
10/29/2010 7:37:30 AM (3091 views)
Re: Title info - Robert Alvey/VA
10/30/2010 3:26:09 PM (2932 views)
Re: Title info - Louise Jackson/SC
10/29/2010 8:10:52 AM (3054 views)
Re: Title info - Robert Alvey/VA
10/30/2010 3:26:49 PM (2916 views)
Re: Title info - Robert Franco/OH
10/29/2010 3:02:09 PM (3060 views)
Re: Title info - William Pattison /CA
10/29/2010 4:26:08 PM (2991 views)
Re: Title info - Robert Alvey/VA
10/30/2010 3:22:55 PM (2906 views)
Re: Title info - Robert Alvey/VA
10/30/2010 3:31:17 PM (2864 views)
Re: Title info - Jessica Talley/NJ
10/29/2010 7:25:28 PM (2879 views)
Re: Title info - K C/NJ
11/1/2010 10:47:06 AM (2833 views)

Politicians at Play - William Pattison /CA
10/28/2010 12:14:49 PM (3665 views)
Re: Politicians at Play - Robert Alvey/VA
10/29/2010 1:25:22 AM (2723 views)
Re: Politicians at Play - William Pattison /CA
10/29/2010 4:16:21 PM (2639 views)

Interesting Article About Marcellus Shale Boom In Pennsylvania - Scott Perry/PA
10/28/2010 11:13:32 AM (4566 views)
Re: Interesting Article About Marcellus Shale Boom In Pennsylvania - Slade Smith/OH
10/28/2010 12:32:28 PM (2891 views)
Re: Interesting Article About Marcellus Shale Boom In Pennsylvania - Scott Perry/PA
10/28/2010 1:41:30 PM (3076 views)
Re: Interesting Article About Marcellus Shale Boom In Pennsylvania - George Booth/OH
10/28/2010 7:56:51 PM (5959 views)
Re: Interesting Article About Marcellus Shale Boom In Pennsylvania - Scott Perry/PA
10/28/2010 9:07:49 PM (5703 views)
Re: Interesting Article About Marcellus Shale Boom In Pennsylvania - George Booth/OH
10/28/2010 9:31:48 PM (2741 views)
Re: Interesting Article About Marcellus Shale Boom In Pennsylvania - Scott Perry/PA
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Re: Interesting Article About Marcellus Shale Boom In Pennsylvania - George Booth/OH
10/29/2010 10:50:23 AM (2731 views)
Re: Interesting Article About Marcellus Shale Boom In Pennsylvania - Scott Perry/PA
10/29/2010 11:37:29 AM (2739 views)
Re: Interesting Article About Marcellus Shale Boom In Pennsylvania - Slade Smith/OH
10/29/2010 11:48:50 AM (2748 views)
Re: Interesting Article About Marcellus Shale Boom In Pennsylvania - Scott Perry/PA
10/29/2010 12:10:30 PM (5520 views)
Re: Interesting Article About Marcellus Shale Boom In Pennsylvania - Slade Smith/OH
10/29/2010 12:32:21 PM (2820 views)
Re: Interesting Article About Marcellus Shale Boom In Pennsylvania - George Booth/OH
10/29/2010 12:44:34 PM (2668 views)
Re: Interesting Article About Marcellus Shale Boom In Pennsylvania - Scott Perry/PA
10/29/2010 1:12:24 PM (2671 views)

Title Problem from Foreclosure - Robert Franco/OH
10/28/2010 9:22:16 AM (3257 views)
Re: Title Problem from Foreclosure - Leigh Attridge/MA
10/28/2010 11:28:20 AM (3045 views)
Re: Title Problem from Foreclosure - George Booth
10/28/2010 11:59:14 AM (3015 views)
Re: Title Problem from Foreclosure - Robert Franco/OH
10/28/2010 1:01:08 PM (3026 views)
Warped Sense of Humor Perspective - Bobbi Shorthouse, Notary Public/CT
10/28/2010 1:18:02 PM (3115 views)
Re: Warped Sense of Humor Perspective - Jessica Talley/NJ
10/28/2010 2:14:26 PM (3018 views)
Re: Title Problem from Foreclosure - George Booth/OH
10/28/2010 3:29:20 PM (3515 views)
Re: Title Problem from Foreclosure - Robert Franco/OH
10/28/2010 3:39:21 PM (3072 views)
Re: Title Problem from Foreclosure - William Pattison /CA
10/28/2010 3:45:37 PM (3029 views)
Re: Title Problem from Foreclosure - George Booth/OH
10/28/2010 7:25:25 PM (2964 views)
Re: Title Problem from Foreclosure - Leigh Attridge/MA
10/28/2010 7:42:39 PM (2999 views)
Re: Title Problem from Foreclosure - George Booth/OH
10/28/2010 7:46:11 PM (2919 views)
Re: Title Problem from Foreclosure - Robert Franco/OH
10/29/2010 3:26:13 PM (2850 views)
Re: Title Problem from Foreclosure - Robert Alvey/VA
10/29/2010 1:20:23 AM (3006 views)
Re: Title Problem from Foreclosure - William Pattison /CA
10/28/2010 3:12:39 PM (2937 views)
Re: Title Problem from Foreclosure - George Booth
10/28/2010 7:42:45 PM (2922 views)
Re: Title Problem from Foreclosure - Slade Smith/OH
10/28/2010 8:05:34 PM (2952 views)
Re: Title Problem from Foreclosure - George Booth/OH
10/28/2010 8:12:54 PM (2956 views)
Re: Title Problem from Foreclosure - Jessica Talley/NJ
10/29/2010 7:08:57 AM (2893 views)
Re: Title Problem from Foreclosure - Robert Alvey/VA
10/29/2010 1:41:47 AM (3122 views)
Re: Title Problem from Foreclosure - George Booth/OH
10/29/2010 7:52:53 AM (3031 views)
Re: Title Problem from Foreclosure - Jessica Talley/NJ
10/29/2010 7:30:20 PM (2859 views)
Re: Title Problem from Foreclosure - Scott Perry/PA
10/30/2010 10:46:40 AM (2946 views)
Re: Title Problem from Foreclosure - William Pattison /CA
11/1/2010 4:01:54 PM (2860 views)

NYT article regarding Spain's foreclosure practices - Leigh Attridge/MA
10/27/2010 10:18:18 PM (4518 views)
Re: NYT article regarding Spain's foreclosure practices - George Booth/OH
10/27/2010 11:04:22 PM (2946 views)
Re: NYT article regarding Spain's foreclosure practices - Bill Garrett/MS
11/1/2010 11:12:15 AM (2748 views)
Re: NYT article regarding Spain's foreclosure practices - William Pattison 
11/1/2010 3:27:12 PM (2645 views)
Re: NYT article regarding Spain's foreclosure practices - Bill Garrett/MS
11/1/2010 8:59:45 PM (2685 views)
Predatory Lending - William Pattison /CA
11/1/2010 5:58:12 PM (2639 views)


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