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It all comes back to understanding - George Booth/OH
12/2/2010 9:40:31 AM (3066 views)
You can lead a horse to water... - Slade Smith/OH
12/2/2010 1:09:48 PM (3562 views)
Re: You can lead a horse to water... - Leigh Attridge/MA
12/2/2010 3:50:57 PM (3474 views)
Re: It all comes back to understanding - William Pattison /CA
12/3/2010 7:10:46 PM (3451 views)

How strong is the chain? - michael rafferty/VA
12/1/2010 8:39:11 PM (3359 views)
Re: How strong is the chain? - William Pattison /CA
12/3/2010 7:17:16 PM (3377 views)

Coefficiency, LLC - Ron McPherson/IA
11/30/2010 3:51:25 PM (3857 views)
Re: Coefficiency, LLC - KRISTI HERRING/ID
12/2/2010 10:29:46 AM (3533 views)
Re: Coefficiency, LLC - Ron McPherson/IA
12/3/2010 2:39:12 AM (3467 views)

WARNING: 21st CENTURY NATIONAL ABSTRACTION CO./DEANA MOORE IS A NON-PAYER - Eric Woelfel/MN
11/30/2010 1:48:44 PM (4914 views)
Re: WARNING: 21st CENTURY NATIONAL ABSTRACTION CO./DEANA MOORE IS A NON-PAYER - Alix Ott/MI
11/30/2010 7:07:17 PM (3615 views)
Re: WARNING: 21st CENTURY NATIONAL ABSTRACTION CO./DEANA MOORE IS A NON-PAYER - Eric Woelfel/MN
11/30/2010 8:10:30 PM (3666 views)
Re: WARNING: 21st CENTURY NATIONAL ABSTRACTION CO./DEANA MOORE IS A NON-PAYER - Alix Ott/MI
12/1/2010 1:54:08 PM (3654 views)

BEWARE OF M&M NATIONAL ABSTRACTING & DEBI MILLER - Eric Woelfel/MN
11/30/2010 9:39:18 AM (4345 views)




Spanish Woman Claims She Now Owns Sun - Edouard LeLocle/SC
11/27/2010 8:15:17 PM (3399 views)
Re: Spanish Woman Claims She Now Owns Sun - Patrick Scott/IL
11/29/2010 2:38:34 AM (3450 views)
Re: Spanish Woman Claims She Now Owns Sun - Jeffrey Land/NJ
11/29/2010 10:46:54 AM (3654 views)
Re: Spanish Woman Claims She Now Owns Sun - Michael Vernon/AZ
11/29/2010 1:34:29 PM (3422 views)
This just in.... - J. H./OH
11/29/2010 10:19:51 PM (3282 views)
Re: This just in.... - Jessica Talley/NJ
12/2/2010 3:44:52 PM (3196 views)
Re: Spanish Woman Claims She Now Owns Sun - Slade Smith/OH
11/30/2010 3:17:53 AM (3384 views)
Re: Spanish Woman Claims She Now Owns Sun - William Pattison /CA
11/30/2010 4:16:08 PM (3231 views)
Re: Spanish Woman Claims She Now Owns Sun - Deborah Manion/VA
12/1/2010 5:16:38 PM (3295 views)

So much to say, so little time - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
11/24/2010 12:22:55 PM (3126 views)
Happy Thanksgiving! - William Pattison /CA
11/24/2010 12:40:34 PM (3164 views)
Re: So much to say, so little time - Slade Smith/OH
11/24/2010 12:58:28 PM (3104 views)
Re: So much to say, so little time - Matt Papsch/MD
11/24/2010 3:10:29 PM (3127 views)
Re: So much to say, so little time - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
11/24/2010 8:14:13 PM (3090 views)
Re: So much to say, so little time - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
11/24/2010 8:14:53 PM (3072 views)

Lumar Document Retrieval - Deborah Manion/VA
11/23/2010 2:21:52 PM (3747 views)
Re: Lumar Document Retrieval - Abstractor/IL
12/9/2010 5:12:37 PM (3347 views)

How far to go in explaining an order - Alix Ott/MI
11/22/2010 3:07:28 PM (3385 views)
Re: How far to go in explaining an order - Robert Franco/OH
11/22/2010 3:35:07 PM (3463 views)
Re: How far to go in explaining an order - K C/NJ
11/22/2010 6:04:22 PM (3457 views)
Re: How far to go in explaining an order - Richard Olson/MD
11/24/2010 9:10:34 AM (3298 views)
Re: How far to go in explaining an order - Robert Franco/OH
11/24/2010 9:58:01 AM (3412 views)
Re: How far to go in explaining an order - Richard Olson/MD
11/24/2010 10:29:41 AM (3361 views)
Re: How far to go in explaining an order - Robert Franco/OH
11/24/2010 10:39:56 AM (3827 views)
Agree with Essentials - William Pattison 
11/24/2010 12:37:01 PM (3330 views)
Re: How far to go in explaining an order - Jessica Talley/NJ
11/24/2010 9:51:07 PM (3271 views)
Re: How far to go in explaining an order - William Pattison /CA
11/24/2010 11:42:02 AM (3285 views)
Thank you, everyone! - Alix Ott/MI
11/29/2010 7:06:00 AM (3295 views)

Abstractors A Go Go - Deborah Manion/VA
11/22/2010 2:29:54 PM (4474 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Linda/NJ
11/22/2010 3:02:36 PM (3434 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Linda/NJ
11/22/2010 3:07:02 PM (3342 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Linda/NJ
11/22/2010 3:23:45 PM (3313 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Jason Knowles/AL
11/24/2010 2:28:08 PM (3208 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - maria santorello/NY
11/23/2010 6:03:18 PM (3233 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Abstractopia/NJ
11/24/2010 9:48:18 AM (3184 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - LINDA/NJ
11/23/2010 4:45:52 PM (3275 views)
Abstractors A Go Gone - Elizabeth Helman/PA
11/23/2010 7:40:16 PM (3331 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - maria santorello/NY
11/23/2010 6:06:34 PM (3224 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Jessica Talley/NJ
11/24/2010 8:48:12 AM (3194 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - K C/NJ
11/24/2010 10:04:26 AM (3155 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Jessica Talley/NJ
11/24/2010 10:42:15 PM (3544 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - maria santorello/NY
11/30/2010 11:03:17 AM (3022 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - KC/NJ
11/30/2010 10:17:15 PM (2949 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Robert Franco/OH
11/24/2010 10:12:24 AM (3117 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Deborah Manion/VA
11/24/2010 11:43:19 AM (3014 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Dave Pelligrinelli/GA
12/1/2010 11:29:25 AM (2816 views)

Quote "Our customers as a rule do eventually pay, and we're finding more and more that they won't pay until the people actually go to settlement.  I can see their way of thinking, after all, they can't disburse on anything else until they get funded, so why shouldn't the abstractor be willing to wait.  I have to wonder if appraisers are facing the same situation. Not saying it's right, just that it is what it is. 

I don't think this situation will ever change until abstractors present a united front with a firm 30 day payment policy. "

 Deborah Manion/VA 

This is a great start to a solution. My personal feeling is that an escrow company should be capitalized enough to be able to pay for their expenses whether the file goes to closing or not. In fact, I think the ultimate solution is for the industry to be on a prepaid basis, in the same way that attorneys, appraisers, and other industry professionals are. This would be a diffuclt and maybe impossible transition.

Regarding appraisers, the standard practice I have seen at least in FL and GA is for the appraisal to be POC by the borrower directly to the appraiser on the spot. It still can be reflected on the HUD that way.

Professional abstractors should not be a means of financing or operating capital for a closing agent. The escrow agent is the primary and central entity managing the transaction process. They are justified in earning the majority of the profit on the deal, but should also take the risk of loss.

Abstractors should at least do some due diligence on their clients to check basic financial condition; D&B, bank references, etc. In addition, there should be an iron-clad customer agreement which ideally holds the principal personally liable for invoices. I can't see how any legitimate and honorable business would have an issue with an agreement like that, if they truly intend to pay their invoices anyway.

My company has no problem with agreements like that, and agree to them whenever requested. Out of thousands of abstractors and other vendors we deal with, the number who have ever asked is in the single digits.

 

The title and escrow companies are not the enemy of abstractors; they are not the bad guys. Searchers simply need to negotiate a more secure arrangement for their business relationships with them. It would be good for everyone. If abstractors don't have to calculate a loss factor into their expenses, and spend time doing searches they will not be paid for, they will have more time do get searches turned around faster for good clients, and mabe aven have more leeway to be more profitable or competitive. Sounds like win-win to me.

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Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Jessica Talley/NJ
12/2/2010 3:51:35 PM (2885 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - JEANETTE LEMONS/WA
11/29/2010 10:15:36 AM (3000 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Jessica Talley/NJ
12/2/2010 3:58:59 PM (2850 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - maria santorello/NY
11/30/2010 10:54:51 AM (2983 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Leigh Attridge/MA
11/30/2010 2:30:30 PM (3010 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Topians/NJ
11/30/2010 10:19:17 PM (2955 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - K C/NJ
12/1/2010 12:16:52 PM (2875 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - K C/NJ
11/30/2010 10:34:22 PM (2866 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Robert Franco/OH
12/1/2010 10:01:38 AM (2931 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - The Former GoGo-ers/NJ
12/1/2010 11:58:58 AM (3153 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - robbin roseberry/OH
12/1/2010 3:44:05 PM (3101 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Ken Ungarsohn/NJ
12/1/2010 4:18:00 PM (3001 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Linda/NJ
12/1/2010 4:41:09 PM (2907 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - K C/NJ
12/1/2010 4:47:18 PM (2865 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Jessica Talley/NJ
12/2/2010 4:26:41 PM (2948 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Leigh Attridge/MA
12/2/2010 4:47:04 PM (2871 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - K C
12/2/2010 6:14:35 PM (2926 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - robbin roseberry/OH
12/2/2010 9:56:24 AM (2926 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Susan Raynard/MA
12/6/2010 4:54:25 PM (2893 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Cliff Boltz/VA
12/8/2010 11:14:59 AM (2723 views)
Re: Abstractors A Go Go - Linda/NJ
12/8/2010 2:54:12 PM (2838 views)

Questions on copies - Dan Zook/NY
11/19/2010 4:34:55 PM (3357 views)
Re: Questions on copies - Slade Smith/OH
11/19/2010 5:28:26 PM (3254 views)
That reminds me... - Robert Franco/OH
11/19/2010 5:49:25 PM (5970 views)
speaking of copies.... - Alix Ott/MI
11/22/2010 8:14:34 AM (3144 views)
Re: speaking of copies.... - Robert Franco/OH
11/22/2010 9:17:51 AM (3183 views)
Re: speaking of copies.... - Diane Brewer/SC
11/22/2010 9:52:13 AM (3141 views)
Re: speaking of copies.... - Alix Ott/MI
11/22/2010 10:15:19 AM (3127 views)
Solution - William Pattison /CA
11/22/2010 11:31:51 AM (3196 views)
Re: Solution - Alix Ott/MI
11/22/2010 1:30:54 PM (2973 views)
Re: speaking of copies.... - Amy Jensen/OR
11/30/2010 2:53:12 PM (2882 views)

New FNMA Guidelines - Leigh Attridge/MA
11/19/2010 8:36:53 AM (4228 views)

Fiber optic outage... - Robert Franco/OH
11/18/2010 9:49:10 AM (2869 views)

Non-Judicial Foreclosure Misposts - William Pattison /CA
11/16/2010 1:07:25 AM (3254 views)
Re: Non-Judicial Foreclosure Misposts - Slade Smith/OH
11/16/2010 1:33:26 PM (3097 views)
Re: Non-Judicial Foreclosure Misposts - William Pattison /CA
11/16/2010 3:38:55 PM (3119 views)
Re: Non-Judicial Foreclosure Misposts - Slade Smith/OH
11/16/2010 4:57:03 PM (3228 views)
Re: Non-Judicial Foreclosure Misposts - William Pattison /CA
11/17/2010 10:02:42 AM (3075 views)
Re: Non-Judicial Foreclosure Misposts - Slade Smith/OH
11/17/2010 11:46:35 AM (3170 views)
Re: Non-Judicial Foreclosure Misposts - William Pattison /CA
11/17/2010 2:37:01 PM (3185 views)

NREIS - Richard Primmer/RI
11/15/2010 6:26:25 PM (3437 views)
Re: NREIS - Barbara /FL
11/22/2010 8:39:38 AM (3146 views)


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