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Guaranteed Payment System - Scott Aduddell/MO
7/27/2011 11:07:56 AM (3585 views)
Re: Guaranteed Payment System - Nils Nelson/ME
7/27/2011 11:59:06 AM (5854 views)
Re: Guaranteed Payment System - Kym/NJ
7/27/2011 1:21:25 PM (5770 views)
Re: Guaranteed Payment System - Nils Nelson/ME
7/27/2011 5:19:26 PM (5895 views)
Re: Guaranteed Payment System - Randolph/VT
7/27/2011 10:08:53 PM (5839 views)
Re: Guaranteed Payment System - Branden Rodgers/OH
7/28/2011 3:27:05 PM (5727 views)
Re: Guaranteed Payment System - Scott Aduddell/MO
7/28/2011 8:38:00 PM (5818 views)
Re: Guaranteed Payment System - Patrick Scott/IL
7/28/2011 11:45:07 PM (5798 views)
Re: Guaranteed Payment System - Scott Aduddell
8/1/2011 4:45:24 PM (5678 views)
Re: Guaranteed Payment System - Branden Rodgers/OH
8/1/2011 3:36:40 PM (5665 views)
Re: Guaranteed Payment System - Nils Nelson/ME
7/29/2011 10:43:01 AM (5876 views)
Re: Guaranteed Payment System - William Pattison /CA
8/1/2011 11:47:23 AM (5598 views)

   Some of this depends on the client base.  There are 3 primary sorts of clients that we have and we do deal with each a bit differently when it comes to pay:

1.  The "man off the street" client is the homeowner, lawyer, historical association or other individual seeking a full title chain (usually for a zoning permit, or building permit, or simple history on a home).  This client is a 1-timer whose good will can bring in future business by referral.  However, getting the client request in email with a clear, explicit written agreement to pay is the first rule of business and has ever failed to garner payment, so despite frequent offers by people to "pay up front", I never find this necessary with the Common Man.

2.  The regular corporate client who offers repeat business through ongoing contracts.  I no longer offer this as an option, as these aggregate firms take $250 from a homeowner, farm the project out to us for $100, and yet expect to get $250 worth of work.  It cheats the homeowner out of quality.  BUT, when we did do this, we always rewrote their contracts to offer our terms, usually to have the contract rejected.  The few that accepted and signed did so, and did not like the retainer on deposit requirement, late penalties, and added fees for copies that they wanted for free.  I guess that RTFD was lost on them.  lol

 3.  Corporate clients who normally use vendor agreements still approach us because nobody else can or will do the research, so they are forced to pay our set rates, instead of their $100 fees.  This is always uncomfortable & unpleasant involving whining and crying on their part.  We have them prepay the research cost, and offer them doc copies at-cost.  Since we can inspect, digitally photograph and otherwise abstract Official Records at zero-cost at the county offices, we have no overhead for this and so copies are optional, and they can get them from other resources cheaper, sometimes.

 Solutions:

A.  Watermark your report pages and records copies with copyright and address.

B.  Get everything in writing by email including agreement to pay.  Get the client's name, address, email, phone, fax and contact agent name in the same email chain and include the email history as an Exhibit / addendum to your report.

C.  Check the abstractor forums:  wait 30 minutes before responding or tell the client that you'll call back in an hour.  This will give you time to check out their reputation for payment.  If they look bad, charge more and have them pay 50% up front, or refuse the job.  Really.  Are you so desperate that you want to work knowingly without pay coming?  

D.  Don't get in the middle of crappy vendor agreements;  charge your rates for your professional services, not somebody's "vendor" rate.  Remember, the only vendor search you will get is into old microfilm, microfiche, and books prior to 1985, because they can't get title cheaply online.  Why work hours for a $40 set rater with copies included when the deed is in 1932?

 E.  Have them give you a retainer worth a few searches that you can put on deposit in case of their payment default.  They are businesses with money, and your fee should not be contingent upon any "close of escrow" event;  they can pay you.  The homeowners and buyers are NOT your client;  they are theirs.  Your client is the firm that contacted you for a search.

 

 

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Re: Guaranteed Payment System - John Campbell/CA
2/6/2012 8:16:07 PM (4654 views)
Re: Guaranteed Payment System - Scott Perry/PA
2/8/2012 9:25:08 AM (4403 views)
Re: Guaranteed Payment System - Robert Franco/OH
2/8/2012 10:34:24 AM (4413 views)

Update on New Millenium Title - Leigh Attridge/MA
7/27/2011 8:50:37 AM (3751 views)
Re: Update on New Millenium Title - steve-o title/TX
8/2/2011 4:03:20 PM (5451 views)
Re: Update on New Millenium Title - Stephenie Page/RI
9/7/2011 7:48:20 PM (5063 views)

Day Late & A Dollar Short - New Millenium Title - Leigh Attridge/MA
7/26/2011 8:48:33 AM (3983 views)
Re: Day Late & A Dollar Short - New Millenium Title - Stephen Williams/MO
8/1/2011 6:00:54 PM (5336 views)
Re: Day Late & A Dollar Short - New Millenium Title - Leigh Attridge/MA
8/2/2011 7:57:19 AM (5403 views)

Massachusetts single family home sales post worst June in two decades - Leigh Attridge/MA
7/26/2011 8:31:39 AM (3967 views)

Nxt Generation Title Services - Theresa Ritz/WV
7/25/2011 2:51:21 PM (3468 views)
Re: Nxt Generation Title Services - Chris Meier/OH
7/31/2011 12:00:17 PM (5638 views)
Re: Nxt Generation Title Services - Theresa Ritz/WV
8/23/2011 2:15:56 PM (4952 views)




American Abstract - Jason Knowles/AL
7/25/2011 1:07:22 PM (4212 views)
Re: American Abstract - rod hefner/KS
7/25/2011 2:03:21 PM (5632 views)
Re: American Abstract - William Pattison /CA
7/25/2011 2:36:22 PM (5487 views)
Re: American Abstract - Suzi Wallace/CA
7/25/2011 6:36:22 PM (5556 views)
Re: American Abstract - Ron McPherson/IA
7/25/2011 8:13:41 PM (5534 views)
Different Firms; similar names verified - William Pattison /CA
8/1/2011 11:51:30 AM (5272 views)

Comment on "Foreclosure Mills Create Title Problems That Can Be Difficult To Cure or Insure" - Source of Title/OH
7/25/2011 12:20:02 PM (3134 views)
Hard to believe - Kristine Bjorge/OR
7/25/2011 12:20:02 PM (4889 views)

Ameristar - WAYNE QUICK/NC
7/25/2011 10:42:57 AM (3708 views)
Re: Ameristar - Kristine Bjorge/OR
7/25/2011 1:03:21 PM (5284 views)
Re: Ameristar - Jason Knowles/AL
7/25/2011 1:09:45 PM (5116 views)
Re: Ameristar - Sharon Yahraes/ID
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Re: Ameristar - WAYNE QUICK/NC
7/25/2011 2:28:54 PM (5139 views)

Payoff statement & title insurance - Amir Athari/TX
7/25/2011 10:07:32 AM (2897 views)

The Banks Still Want a Waiver - Leigh Attridge/MA
7/24/2011 5:54:27 PM (3623 views)

Docs RN - General Annoucement - Gerry/TN
7/24/2011 12:15:13 AM (5305 views)
Re: Docs RN - General Annoucement - Abstractor/AL
7/25/2011 1:23:27 PM (4995 views)
Re: Docs RN - General Annoucement - Abstractor/CA
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Abstrax llc / Linear Title - LEO POVEDA/CA
7/22/2011 4:36:47 PM (4701 views)
Re: Abstrax llc / Linear Title - Leigh Attridge/MA
7/23/2011 12:58:23 PM (5663 views)
Re: Abstrax llc / Linear Title - LEO POVEDA/CA
7/23/2011 2:11:20 PM (6009 views)
Re: Abstrax llc / Linear Title - Kathleen Truax/WI
7/25/2011 10:36:12 AM (5352 views)
Re: Abstrax llc / Linear Title - Jason Knowles/AL
7/25/2011 1:03:01 PM (5369 views)
Re: Abstrax llc / Linear Title - Leigh Attridge/AK
7/25/2011 1:11:27 PM (5651 views)
Re: Abstrax llc / Linear Title - Kathleen Truax/WI
7/25/2011 3:17:33 PM (5469 views)
Re: Abstrax llc / Linear Title - Brandon/MI
7/27/2011 11:38:37 AM (5411 views)
Re: Abstrax llc / Linear Title - Ron McPherson/IA
7/25/2011 7:37:02 PM (5405 views)
Re: Abstrax llc / Linear Title - Brandon/MI
8/4/2011 11:17:10 AM (5192 views)
Re: Abstrax llc / Linear Title - MELISA LISK/MI
9/1/2011 12:28:21 PM (4879 views)

Countrywide to Repay Borrowers - Leigh Attridge/MA
7/21/2011 4:21:03 PM (3716 views)

Comment on "Robo-Signing: Business as usual" - Source of Title/OH
7/21/2011 3:12:11 PM (3040 views)
smoking gun - William Pattison /CA
7/21/2011 3:12:11 PM (4641 views)

What to pay a sales rep? - Ray Young/GA
7/20/2011 5:22:57 PM (3112 views)
Re: What to pay a sales rep? - Donna McCullough/SC
7/20/2011 7:07:28 PM (4800 views)
Re: What to pay a sales rep? - Ray Young/GA
7/21/2011 3:50:36 PM (4529 views)


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