Register
Log In
Forget your Password?

Home
Directory
Bulletins
Forums
Blogs
Articles
Links
Classifieds
About Us
Contact Us
Advertise
FAQ
Privacy Policy


Discussion
<< get older messagesget newer messages >>
to post a message: login - or - register | search messages | hide all replies



Jeaz... - Slade Smith/OH
11/2/2011 4:18:56 PM (4916 views)
Re: Jeaz... - Leigh Attridge/MA
11/2/2011 4:44:27 PM (3863 views)
Re: Jeaz... - Jessica Talley/FL
11/2/2011 6:50:07 PM (3867 views)
Re: Jeaz... - Anita Backlund/MN
11/2/2011 7:36:37 PM (3919 views)
Re: Jeaz... - Tony Costa/LA
11/4/2011 9:04:58 AM (3743 views)

Lost another one. - Dan Zook/CA
11/2/2011 1:31:09 PM (3585 views)
Re: Lost another one. - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
11/2/2011 2:48:24 PM (4308 views)
Re: Lost another one. - Dan Zook/NY
11/2/2011 3:52:54 PM (4282 views)
Re: Lost another one. - Nils Nelson/ME
11/2/2011 5:44:57 PM (4301 views)
Re: Lost another one. - Brenda Summerlin/FL
11/7/2011 7:06:37 AM (4060 views)
Re: Lost another one. - Leigh Attridge/MA
11/2/2011 4:47:08 PM (4288 views)
Re: Lost another one. - Barbara Bennett/IN
11/7/2011 5:10:14 PM (3844 views)
Re: Lost another one. - ER/FL
11/16/2011 1:16:12 PM (4150 views)
Impossible - Bay Area Abstracting - William Pattison /CA
11/7/2011 7:56:15 AM (4345 views)
Re: Impossible - Bay Area Abstracting - john franz/NJ
11/7/2011 10:35:37 AM (3932 views)
Re: Impossible - Bay Area Abstracting - William Pattison /CA
11/14/2011 12:24:43 PM (4251 views)
Re: Impossible - Bay Area Abstracting - Dan Zook/NY
11/15/2011 9:10:08 AM (4101 views)
Re: Lost another one. - Clayton Griffith/TN
11/7/2011 11:32:24 PM (3923 views)
Re: Lost another one. - Paige Dunn/GA
11/19/2011 12:29:38 PM (3895 views)

Interesting Reading - Kevin Ahern/CT
11/1/2011 10:54:12 AM (4771 views)
Re: Interesting Reading - Leigh Attridge/MA
11/1/2011 11:22:36 AM (4013 views)
Re: Interesting Reading - Kevin Ahern/CT
11/1/2011 11:45:09 AM (3988 views)
Re: Interesting Reading - Slade Smith/OH
11/1/2011 11:44:48 AM (3901 views)

The Multistate Settlement Lottery: Bupkis - Leigh Attridge/MA
10/31/2011 2:07:55 PM (4228 views)

Comment on "The Abstract Solution Announces Agency Platform" - Source of Title/OH
10/31/2011 9:54:22 AM (3103 views)
Let's cut the abstractors out of the picture - Mark Pierson/FL
10/31/2011 9:54:22 AM (7238 views)
post deleted. - Slade Smith/OH
10/31/2011 1:40:10 PM (7094 views)
Re: Let's cut the abstractors out of the picture - Matthew Einheber/PA
10/31/2011 5:10:50 PM (7070 views)
Re: Let's cut the abstractors out of the picture - Anita Backlund/MN
10/31/2011 5:43:19 PM (7069 views)
Re: Let's cut the abstractors out of the picture - Kevin Ahern/CT
11/1/2011 7:29:01 AM (7082 views)
Re: Let's cut the abstractors out of the picture - Anita Backlund/MN
11/2/2011 7:33:21 PM (7043 views)
Re: Let's cut the abstractors out of the picture - Kevin Ahern/CT
11/3/2011 10:24:03 AM (7163 views)
Re: Let's cut the abstractors out of the picture - Matthew Einheber/PA
11/3/2011 10:45:00 AM (7138 views)
Re: Let's cut the abstractors out of the picture - Gerry Scott/TN
11/1/2011 4:36:05 PM (7060 views)
Re: Let's cut the abstractors out of the picture - Matthew Einheber/PA
11/3/2011 3:53:21 PM (6975 views)
Its a solicitation list - Gerry Scott/TN
11/3/2011 10:09:31 AM (7218 views)




Is the jig up for MERS? - Leigh Attridge/MA
10/31/2011 8:27:00 AM (4222 views)

Service1st, Service 1st, Service First, Valuenet - David Marks/VA
10/29/2011 10:31:22 AM (3139 views)
Re: Service1st, Service 1st, Service First, Valuenet - Bruce Lutz/PA
10/31/2011 10:51:03 AM (4034 views)

Mortgage regulator, Edward DeMarco, at home with criticism - Leigh Attridge/MA
10/27/2011 8:06:31 AM (4102 views)

Comment on "Another Big County Goes After MERS Back Fees" - Source of Title/OH
10/26/2011 7:00:19 PM (2972 views)
MERS - J. H./OH
10/26/2011 7:00:19 PM (5706 views)

Rasa Solutions - Bridget Marinelli/PA
10/26/2011 10:41:11 AM (3642 views)
Re: Rasa Solutions - rod hefner/KS
10/26/2011 11:11:47 AM (4210 views)
Re: Rasa Solutions - Bridget Marinelli/PA
10/26/2011 3:40:25 PM (4131 views)
Re: Rasa Solutions - rod hefner/KS
10/27/2011 7:33:55 AM (4276 views)
Re: Rasa Solutions Kudos for Rod Hefner - Kym/NJ
11/2/2011 10:15:26 AM (4351 views)
Re: Rasa Solutions - Denise DeMattei/CA
10/26/2011 12:57:08 PM (4109 views)
Re: Rasa Solutions - Rebecca Cowart/MS
10/26/2011 1:32:02 PM (4046 views)
Re: Rasa Solutions - Bridget Marinelli/PA
10/26/2011 3:45:05 PM (4206 views)
Re: Rasa Solutions - Bridget Marinelli/PA
10/26/2011 3:43:03 PM (4026 views)
Re: Rasa Solutions - Rebecca Cowart/MS
10/26/2011 4:14:54 PM (4071 views)
Re: Rasa Solutions - Bridget Marinelli/PA
10/27/2011 9:20:39 AM (4424 views)
Re: Rasa Solutions - Rebecca Cowart/MS
10/27/2011 4:26:42 PM (4459 views)
Envelope Icon - great for email! - Kym/NJ
11/2/2011 10:16:59 AM (3856 views)
Re: Rasa Solutions - Tony Costa/LA
10/31/2011 8:18:17 AM (3940 views)
Re: Rasa Solutions - Kym/NJ
11/2/2011 10:20:42 AM (3962 views)
Re: Rasa Solutions - Greg Weiss/IL
10/31/2011 7:51:54 PM (4016 views)

Congratulations Are In Order - Patrick Scott/IL
10/25/2011 8:45:54 PM (2458 views)

Surprise on Refi Revamp: Key Regulator Agrees to Reforms - Leigh Attridge/MA
10/25/2011 3:21:38 PM (4198 views)

Comment on "NAR: Existing Home Sales Edge Down in September" - Source of Title/OH
10/25/2011 2:24:02 AM (2140 views)

Comment on "Breaking the Tie-- or Not" - Source of Title/OH
10/24/2011 8:01:51 PM (2925 views)
What about the document numbers? - Daniel Silverburg/CA
10/24/2011 8:01:52 PM (4025 views)
CA underwriters - William Pattison /CA
10/24/2011 8:42:38 PM (3964 views)
Re: CA underwriters - Robert Franco/OH
10/24/2011 10:05:29 PM (3953 views)
Re: CA underwriters - Slade Smith/OH
10/25/2011 5:44:23 AM (7739 views)
Re: CA underwriters - William Pattison /CA
10/26/2011 2:17:42 AM (3903 views)
Re: CA underwriters - Slade Smith/OH
10/26/2011 3:21:37 AM (3915 views)
lien priority is your answer - William Pattison /CA
10/26/2011 3:01:26 PM (4067 views)
But L.A. is Different... - Daniel Silverburg/CA
10/31/2011 8:23:32 AM (3831 views)
Re: But L.A. is Different... - Slade Smith/OH
10/31/2011 1:25:11 PM (6467 views)

It's case # B226061, Court of Appeals of California, Second District, Division Three. The decision can be read here.

The court was obviously cognizant of your reasoning why indexing could not possibly be a determinant of priority, saying, "it would disrupt the statutory scheme to make priority turn on the random act of indexing, as defendant advocates, especially where banks and title insurers have no influence over when the recorder indexes trust deeds."

There's nothing in the decision regarding L.A. county's system for detecting conflicts or producing a fallout report like you described, and so there's nothing in the decision regarding how all these mortgages went undetected.  Perhaps the pleadings in the case shed some light on that, and if you should happen to get your hands on them, I'd be interested to learn what you find out.

One thing that I suspect is that the plaintiff argued that the index timestamp mattered because that was the only criteria that was in their favor.  The decision doesn't say anything about document numbering being a factor in determining priority, but I suspect that's simply because that wasn't the plaintiffs argument.  The decision implies that there can be other factors beyond the recording timestamp which determine priority. (The ruling says that "Other things being equal, different liens upon the same property have priority according to the time of their creation".  I take that to mean, then, that if relevant other things are not equal in a case where the time of creation is equal, then the liens would not have the same priority. )

to post a reply: login - or - register


Re: But L.A. is Different... - William Pattison /CA
11/7/2011 8:16:56 AM (3809 views)

Applied Tech Resources Doesn't Pay - Kimberly Goode/GA
10/24/2011 12:55:23 PM (3248 views)
Re: Applied Tech Resources Doesn't Pay - Barbara Bennett/IN
10/24/2011 3:46:44 PM (4175 views)
Re: Applied Tech Resources Doesn't Pay - Jodi Thornton/MS
10/24/2011 6:07:39 PM (4132 views)
Re: Applied Tech Resources Doesn't Pay - Dan Zook/NY
10/26/2011 9:19:37 AM (5026 views)
Re: Applied Tech Resources Doesn't Pay - Kristine Bjorge/OR
3/27/2012 5:14:08 PM (3665 views)


<< get older messagesget newer messages >>

DISCLAIMER: These Message Forums are un-moderated and Source of Title does not endorse the content of any of the posts. Source of Title discourages libelous comments and you, as the sole creator of the content, take full responsibility for your remarks.
Directory

The Source of Title Business directory has 8973 listed companies.

Leave feedback on a company:
SOT ID #:  learn more...
DRN Title Search
Blogs

Read other users' blogs-- or start your own!

Most Recent Blog Posts:

Residential Appraisers: Reclaim Your Time
Will Duncan 's Blog
2026/07/09
0 comments

ATTENTION CIOs, CTOs, VENDOR MANAGERS, AND SUPPLIER MANAGERS
Will Duncan 's Blog
2026/06/15
0 comments

What Is Title Insurance & Benefits
Michael Stelzer's Blog
2026/03/14
0 comments

Articles

Source of Title articles help to keep you informed on the state of the title industry.

ALTA Celebrates 21st Century ROAD to Housing Act Becoming Law
“ALTA congratulates Chairman Tim Scott, Ranking Member Elizabeth Warren, Chairman French Hill, Ranking Member Maxi...
New NAR Survey Finds Americans Value Neighborhood Walkability
A new survey by the National Association of REALTORS® shows that Americans value walkability, mixed-used neighborho...
MISMO Publishes White Paper, Roadmap for Scaling Digital Mortgage Adoption Through eClosing
MISMO®, the real estate finance industry's standards organization, today announced the release of its new white pap...
NAR Existing-Home Sales Report Shows 2.4% Decrease in June
“The median home price has reached an all-time high. Even so, affordability is better than a year ago because wage...
Remodeling Market Sentiment Remains in Positive Territory in Second Quarter
“Remodeler sentiment has been positive and stable over the past year,” said NAHB Remodelers Chair Elliott Pi...

Search Articles:
browse...

Classifieds

Buy, sell, or trade! Browse the ads or post your own!

© 2020, Source of Title.