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"Kevin" wants to help... - Patrick Furman/NY
11/10/2011 4:05:26 PM (3323 views)
Re: "Kevin" wants to help... - Denise DeMattei/CA
11/10/2011 4:25:38 PM (4014 views)
Re: "Kevin" wants to help... - Barbara Bennett/IN
11/10/2011 6:40:50 PM (4081 views)
Re: "Kevin" wants to help... - J. H./OH
11/10/2011 7:43:32 PM (3950 views)
Re: "Kevin" wants to help... - Jessica Talley/FL
11/11/2011 11:44:43 AM (3869 views)
I've told ya so - William Pattison /CA
11/14/2011 12:11:03 PM (3865 views)

I've noted for years on this forum that the "fly by night" firms both here and overseas use the DataTrace data.  DocEdge, SiteX, and HomeInfoMax all buy their info and repackage it for sale to their subscribers.  The former is a bit expensive in annual dues but pays off if you have bulk. The latter is less annually, but charges more per search.  NONE are reliable as none purchase all the title data:  either it's not offered to them as a way for DataTrace to keep a stranglehold on the market, or it's too expensive for them to bother with.  In any case, the 15 dollar cost of a search is "OK" at best, as a cross-check ONCE YOU'VE FINISHED your research.  

Keep this in mind:  why does ANYONE farm out a project to you that goes back to 1985 if HomeInfoMax offers data to that point and they can search the online indices for free?   Quality, professionalism and assurances of accuracy are the reasons for you to do it and you should charge a rate for the liability you assume as a professional abstractor.  So why charge less, just because a middleman firm is taking a cut and checking the cheap and easy stuff already?

 Secondly:  the error rate of the online companies is high.  At least 40 percent of my research proves their $15 reports to be inaccurate to contain matters posted wrong (2 deeds on property at 300 El Camino in Belmont were posted to 300 El Camino in San Bruno a few cities away;  verified against the legal descriptions, address on document and apn's, all...lol), and missing document references.

 Finally, he can't search much prior to 1985 due to his reliance on the info available, plus his unfamiliarity with abstracting.  Many of us could find an older deed, if that's all the client wants, by checking other sources beyond the DataTree/DataTrace-derived reports.  He has neither the experience or skill to do what a professional can do.  He is unfamiliar with the resources available.  He does not understand the structure of public records or public agencies or American culture.  He has a marginal grasp of English and a work incentive that says "go where the money is" (America), so he's right in that;  just not a fair or reasonable competition to our superior products.

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Attention please...for all New England area examiners - Leigh Attridge/MA
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To fix housing read the data - Leigh Attridge/MA
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How a Financial Pro Lost his House - Leigh Attridge/MA
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Bridgewater Title - Payments - Russ  Kern/GA
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Re: Bridgewater Title - Payments - Gerry Scott/TN
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Re: Bridgewater Title - Payments - Kevin Ahern/CT
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Re: Bridgewater Title - Payments - Gerry Scott/TN
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Re: Bridgewater Title - Payments - Leigh Attridge/MA
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Re: Bridgewater Title - Payments - Jessica Talley/FL
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He'll Be Back... - Scott Perry/PA
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Applied Technology Resources, Inc. - Cate Jones/NH
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Re: Applied Technology Resources, Inc. - Barbara Bennett/IN
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Get Your Independent Foreclosure Review!! - Leigh Attridge/MA
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Steven J Baum and NY Times - Rita Killary/NY
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American Abstract - Lynn Rucker/VA
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Re: American Abstract - Anita Binns/IL
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Re: American Abstract - Jason Knowles/AL
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Re: American Abstract - Anita Binns/IL
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Re: American Abstract - Jessica Talley/FL
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Re: American Abstract - Anita Binns/IL
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Re: American Abstract - Dan Zook/NY
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Re: American Abstract - Anita Binns/IL
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Re: American Abstract - Anita Binns/IL
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Re: American Abstract - Jason Knowles/AL
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Re: American Abstract - Anita Binns/IL
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Re: American Abstract - Richard Rhoda/ME
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Re: American Abstract - Slade Smith/OH
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MORTGAGE CONNECT - anybody know them? - Bruce Murch/VA
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Looking for advice on selling title insurance - Gerry Scott/TN
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Re: Looking for advice on selling title insurance - Gerry Scott/TN
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E & O Question - Wayne /OH
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Re: E & O Question - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: E & O Question - Nancy Walker/AZ
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Re: E & O Question - Robert Franco/OH
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Jeaz... - Slade Smith/OH
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Re: Jeaz... - Leigh Attridge/MA
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Re: Jeaz... - Jessica Talley/FL
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Lost another one. - Dan Zook/CA
11/2/2011 1:31:09 PM (3517 views)
Re: Lost another one. - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
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Re: Lost another one. - Dan Zook/NY
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Re: Lost another one. - Nils Nelson/ME
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Re: Lost another one. - Brenda Summerlin/FL
11/7/2011 7:06:37 AM (3940 views)
Re: Lost another one. - Leigh Attridge/MA
11/2/2011 4:47:08 PM (4173 views)
Re: Lost another one. - Barbara Bennett/IN
11/7/2011 5:10:14 PM (3745 views)
Re: Lost another one. - ER/FL
11/16/2011 1:16:12 PM (4038 views)
Impossible - Bay Area Abstracting - William Pattison /CA
11/7/2011 7:56:15 AM (4052 views)
Re: Impossible - Bay Area Abstracting - john franz/NJ
11/7/2011 10:35:37 AM (3815 views)
Re: Impossible - Bay Area Abstracting - William Pattison /CA
11/14/2011 12:24:43 PM (4060 views)
Re: Impossible - Bay Area Abstracting - Dan Zook/NY
11/15/2011 9:10:08 AM (3991 views)
Re: Lost another one. - Clayton Griffith/TN
11/7/2011 11:32:24 PM (3817 views)
Re: Lost another one. - Paige Dunn/GA
11/19/2011 12:29:38 PM (3790 views)


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