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Power Link - Theresa Ritz/WV
11/15/2011 1:06:16 PM (3217 views)
Re: Power Link - elizabeth reddy/FL
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Outsourcing Data - Jeanine Johnson/MN
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Re: Outsourcing Data - Leigh Attridge/MA
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Re: Outsourcing Data - Anita Backlund/MN
11/14/2011 8:00:56 PM (3968 views)

Useful list of bank mergers & closures - Leigh Attridge/MA
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Re: Useful list of bank mergers & closures - Wyatt Bell/FL
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Re: Useful list of bank mergers & closures - Slade Smith/OH
11/14/2011 8:00:40 PM (3838 views)
Re: Useful list of bank mergers & closures - elizabeth reddy/FL
11/15/2011 1:38:21 PM (3907 views)

MERS 2 - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
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Re: MERS 2 - Wyatt Bell/FL
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Re: MERS 2 - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: MERS 2 - Barbara Bennett/IN
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Re: MERS 2 - Wyatt Bell/FL
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Re: MERS 2 - Robert Franco/OH
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Re: MERS 2 - Wyatt Bell/FL
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Re: MERS 2 - Slade Smith
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Re: MERS 2 - Wyatt Bell/FL
11/15/2011 11:20:49 AM (3795 views)

Perspectives on Fairness - Wyatt Bell/FL
11/14/2011 8:59:47 AM (4015 views)




Red eDocs - Sara/MI
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Re: Red eDocs - Nils Nelson/ME
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Re: Red eDocs - Sara/MI
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Re: Red eDocs - Chris/MI
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Re: Red eDocs - Diane O'Neill/MI
11/16/2011 11:48:22 AM (3889 views)

Altisource - Elizabeth Helman/PA
11/11/2011 11:05:47 AM (3507 views)
Re: Altisource - Phil McLean/CO
11/17/2011 11:08:16 AM (3897 views)

The Pedestrian Loses the Way - Leigh Attridge/MA
11/11/2011 8:53:52 AM (4115 views)

A Special Thank You! - Nils Nelson/ME
11/10/2011 10:56:39 PM (2886 views)
Re: A Special Thank You! - Gerry Scott/TN
11/11/2011 9:21:06 AM (3482 views)
Thank you Nils and all veterans! - Slade Smith/OH
11/11/2011 12:01:57 PM (3508 views)
Re: A Special Thank You! - Nisseem Froehlich/OR
11/11/2011 3:47:53 PM (3553 views)
Re: A Special Thank You! - CHARLENE  PERRY/MD
11/11/2011 3:59:54 PM (3428 views)

The Multistate Foreclosure Agreement - Leigh Attridge/MA
11/10/2011 4:35:00 PM (4218 views)
Re: The Multistate Foreclosure Agreement - Slade Smith/OH
11/10/2011 5:58:30 PM (3471 views)

"Kevin" wants to help... - Patrick Furman/NY
11/10/2011 4:05:26 PM (3295 views)
Re: "Kevin" wants to help... - Denise DeMattei/CA
11/10/2011 4:25:38 PM (3876 views)
Re: "Kevin" wants to help... - Barbara Bennett/IN
11/10/2011 6:40:50 PM (3949 views)
Re: "Kevin" wants to help... - J. H./OH
11/10/2011 7:43:32 PM (3811 views)
Re: "Kevin" wants to help... - Jessica Talley/FL
11/11/2011 11:44:43 AM (3732 views)
I've told ya so - William Pattison /CA
11/14/2011 12:11:03 PM (3724 views)

I've noted for years on this forum that the "fly by night" firms both here and overseas use the DataTrace data.  DocEdge, SiteX, and HomeInfoMax all buy their info and repackage it for sale to their subscribers.  The former is a bit expensive in annual dues but pays off if you have bulk. The latter is less annually, but charges more per search.  NONE are reliable as none purchase all the title data:  either it's not offered to them as a way for DataTrace to keep a stranglehold on the market, or it's too expensive for them to bother with.  In any case, the 15 dollar cost of a search is "OK" at best, as a cross-check ONCE YOU'VE FINISHED your research.  

Keep this in mind:  why does ANYONE farm out a project to you that goes back to 1985 if HomeInfoMax offers data to that point and they can search the online indices for free?   Quality, professionalism and assurances of accuracy are the reasons for you to do it and you should charge a rate for the liability you assume as a professional abstractor.  So why charge less, just because a middleman firm is taking a cut and checking the cheap and easy stuff already?

 Secondly:  the error rate of the online companies is high.  At least 40 percent of my research proves their $15 reports to be inaccurate to contain matters posted wrong (2 deeds on property at 300 El Camino in Belmont were posted to 300 El Camino in San Bruno a few cities away;  verified against the legal descriptions, address on document and apn's, all...lol), and missing document references.

 Finally, he can't search much prior to 1985 due to his reliance on the info available, plus his unfamiliarity with abstracting.  Many of us could find an older deed, if that's all the client wants, by checking other sources beyond the DataTree/DataTrace-derived reports.  He has neither the experience or skill to do what a professional can do.  He is unfamiliar with the resources available.  He does not understand the structure of public records or public agencies or American culture.  He has a marginal grasp of English and a work incentive that says "go where the money is" (America), so he's right in that;  just not a fair or reasonable competition to our superior products.

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Abstractors A Go Go - new info - Jason Knowles/AL
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Re: Abstractors A Go Go - new info - Leigh Attridge/MA
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Re: Abstractors A Go Go - new info - Kym/NJ
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Re: Abstractors A Go Go - new info - Kym/NJ
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Re: Abstractors A Go Go - new info - Abstractor/NJ
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Re: Abstractors A Go Go - new info - Kym/NJ
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Attention please...for all New England area examiners - Leigh Attridge/MA
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To fix housing read the data - Leigh Attridge/MA
11/9/2011 1:51:17 PM (4009 views)

How a Financial Pro Lost his House - Leigh Attridge/MA
11/9/2011 1:23:53 PM (4865 views)
Re: How a Financial Pro Lost his House - Jessica Talley/FL
11/9/2011 5:57:37 PM (3730 views)
Re: How a Financial Pro Lost his House - Leigh Attridge/MA
11/9/2011 8:04:20 PM (3764 views)
Re: How a Financial Pro Lost his House - Slade Smith/OH
11/9/2011 11:04:41 PM (3759 views)
Re: How a Financial Pro Lost his House - Leigh Attridge/MA
11/10/2011 7:46:26 AM (3778 views)


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