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COPIES, COPIES, COPIES - Luis Rivera/PA
5/15/2014 4:42:37 PM (3396 views)
Re: COPIES, COPIES, COPIES - Christy Lynn/SC
5/15/2014 7:55:00 PM (1946 views)
Re: COPIES, COPIES, COPIES - Alix Ott/MI
5/19/2014 7:32:01 AM (1682 views)
Re: COPIES, COPIES, COPIES - stephen willard/OH
5/19/2014 9:46:44 AM (1665 views)
Re: COPIES, COPIES, COPIES - Alix Ott/MI
5/19/2014 9:13:02 PM (1715 views)
Know any good lawyer in MI to do it? - george Hubka/MI
5/19/2014 11:03:29 PM (1726 views)
Re: Know any good lawyer in MI to do it? - Alix Ott/MI
5/20/2014 8:36:02 AM (1573 views)
Re: Know any good lawyer in MI to do it? - Scott Perry/PA
5/20/2014 8:59:41 AM (1610 views)
Re: COPIES, COPIES, COPIES - Robert Franco/OH
5/20/2014 10:01:04 AM (1561 views)
Re: COPIES, COPIES, COPIES - Alix Ott/MI
5/20/2014 10:48:50 AM (1564 views)

I agree with some of what you said, but not with all.  I think the disconnect is the TYPE of search.  Thinking of only a 1 owner search, with only a very few exceptions, ALL counties can have their copies printed from the computer system with a click of the button.  I personally never write up the order as I do the order unless I am able to access a system from home where I have dual monitors and can have the index/copies on one screen and my typeable write-up form on the other.

Clients can get very few copies themselves in most of Michigan.  While there are ways to obtain copies on-line (depending on county) even if you're not a regular user, it is usually a process to get it done and requires a credit card, putting in a LOT of information every time, and the like, while the abstractor will already have an account set up and/or an escrow account from which to pull.  Again, NO EXTRA TIME INVOLVED.

While it is true that some 1 owner/2 owner searches would require the pulling and copying of books, those are rare and I do not resent doing it.  AND if I do have to pull and copy, it means the "1 owner" has become a 40 year and I have asked for -- and received approval of -- a fee upgrade accordingly.  Most 40 year searches require a lot more work -- but are also being charged a lot more.  My time in copying is built into that fee.

As for "doc retrievals" that aren't really, with those clients I make it clear that if there is real work involved -- pulling old books and having to be at the courthouse to do it -- the fee goes up.  Sometimes dramatically.  

My final point is industry standard.  I have never had an abstractor complain about pulling documents for which they are being reimbursed and are part of an order.  The complaints are there when they're told NOT to take copies because it takes too long to sit there and write everything out!  I even have a couple of abstractors who will take copies -- at least 1st pages of mtgs -- simply to save time.  They know I can't reimburse them, but they'd rather pay for the copy than waste time writing something out.  I can't tell you how many times I've had to scold someone for making copies when they shouldn't have.  That is MUCH more common than the reverse!

 

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Re: COPIES, COPIES, COPIES - Robert Franco/OH
5/20/2014 11:03:44 AM (1583 views)
Re: COPIES, COPIES, COPIES - Alix Ott/MI
5/20/2014 11:26:26 AM (1650 views)
Re: COPIES, COPIES, COPIES - Joyce Obrien/PA
5/22/2014 7:31:42 AM (1538 views)
Re: COPIES, COPIES, COPIES - Fran Scheetz/PA
5/19/2014 10:53:24 AM (1639 views)
Re: COPIES, COPIES, COPIES - Smitty Strickland/SC
5/21/2014 6:00:52 PM (1977 views)
Re: COPIES, COPIES, COPIES - Deb Baker/MI
5/21/2014 11:12:58 PM (1425 views)
Re: COPIES, COPIES, COPIES - george Hubka/MI
5/21/2014 11:26:58 PM (1589 views)

Client Refusing to Pay for Commercial Search - Chris Brew/OH
5/15/2014 12:31:19 PM (4061 views)
Re: Client Refusing to Pay for Commercial Search - Rita Killary/NY
5/15/2014 4:34:31 PM (1950 views)
Re: Client Refusing to Pay for Commercial Search - Christy Lynn/SC
5/15/2014 7:56:29 PM (1945 views)
Re: Client Refusing to Pay for Commercial Search - Dave Lewis/TX
5/16/2014 9:49:46 AM (1869 views)
Re: Client Refusing to Pay for Commercial Search - Bill Garrett/MS
5/19/2014 1:42:44 AM (1696 views)
Re: Client Refusing to Pay for Commercial Search - Alix Ott/MI
5/19/2014 7:23:22 AM (1585 views)
Re: Client Refusing to Pay for Commercial Search - Ruth Seal/FL
5/19/2014 8:24:31 AM (1633 views)
Re: Client Refusing to Pay for Commercial Search - Bill Arnold/TN
5/19/2014 11:18:56 AM (1696 views)
Re: Client Refusing to Pay for Commercial Search - REBECCA RIZZONELLI/PA
5/19/2014 6:00:32 PM (1721 views)
Re: Client Refusing to Pay for Commercial Search - Elizabeth Helman/PA
5/19/2014 9:26:02 PM (1599 views)
Re: Client Refusing to Pay for Commercial Search - Smitty Strickland/SC
5/20/2014 5:00:49 PM (1558 views)
Re: Client Refusing to Pay for Commercial Search - Rita Killary/NY
5/20/2014 10:12:00 PM (1578 views)
Re: Client Refusing to Pay for Commercial Search - george Hubka/MI
5/21/2014 11:28:13 PM (1527 views)
Re: Client Refusing to Pay for Commercial Search - Elizabeth Helman/PA
5/22/2014 9:46:19 PM (1577 views)
Re: Client Refusing to Pay for Commercial Search - kevin ahern/CT
5/29/2014 2:46:17 PM (1671 views)
Re: Client Refusing to Pay for Commercial Search - Saundra  Scott/MD
5/30/2014 8:13:39 PM (1674 views)
Re: Client Refusing to Pay for Commercial Search - Jana Urban-Buzek/OH
7/14/2014 8:00:57 AM (1433 views)
Re: Client Refusing to Pay for Commercial Search - Saundra  Scott/MD
7/14/2014 10:58:27 AM (1431 views)

Has Anyone Ever Heard of IliosUS Inc.? - Scott Perry/PA
5/15/2014 11:45:46 AM (2623 views)
Re: Has Anyone Ever Heard of IliosUS Inc.? - David Bloys/TX
5/16/2014 10:21:41 AM (4850 views)
Re: Has Anyone Ever Heard of IliosUS Inc.? - Robert Franco/OH
5/20/2014 10:21:08 AM (2526 views)
Re: Has Anyone Ever Heard of IliosUS Inc.? - Nathan Smith/NY
5/23/2014 3:40:35 PM (1827 views)
Re: Has Anyone Ever Heard of IliosUS Inc.? - Nathan Smith/NY
6/5/2014 3:32:00 PM (4275 views)
Re: Has Anyone Ever Heard of IliosUS Inc.? - David Bloys/TX
6/5/2014 5:31:32 PM (4184 views)

Mayura, Inc, - Smitty Strickland/SC
5/14/2014 3:24:44 PM (2377 views)
Re: Mayura, Inc, - David Bloys/TX
5/14/2014 6:41:06 PM (1942 views)
Mayura, Inc - Bogus Location - David Bloys/TX
5/14/2014 7:20:14 PM (1857 views)
Re: Mayura, Inc - Bogus Location - Smitty Strickland/SC
5/15/2014 8:32:39 AM (2374 views)

Kentucky Land and Title does not pay abstractors - Jennifer Peart/OH
5/14/2014 2:08:58 PM (2720 views)
none - Jennifer Peart/OH
6/12/2014 9:29:04 AM (1574 views)
Re: Kentucky Land and Title does not pay abstractors - Jennifer Peart/OH
7/17/2014 6:57:18 PM (1739 views)




Specific components to look for in E&O insurance - Heidi Gemeling/FL
5/13/2014 4:43:03 PM (2415 views)
Re: Specific components to look for in E&O insurance - Robert Franco/OH
5/16/2014 8:43:02 AM (4688 views)
Re: Specific components to look for in E&O insurance - Heidi Gemeling/FL
5/16/2014 5:51:53 PM (1808 views)
Re: Specific components to look for in E&O insurance - Robyn Gordon/NJ
5/20/2014 9:01:39 PM (4901 views)
Re: Specific components to look for in E&O insurance - Heidi Gemeling/FL
5/21/2014 6:42:00 AM (2334 views)
Re: Specific components to look for in E&O insurance - Alix Ott/MI
5/21/2014 11:08:48 AM (1737 views)
Re: Specific components to look for in E&O insurance - Heidi Gemeling/FL
5/21/2014 11:46:05 AM (1751 views)

Eclipse... - Rita Killary/NY
5/12/2014 12:23:08 PM (2209 views)
Re: Eclipse... - Patricia Harpur/PA
5/21/2014 2:32:52 PM (1541 views)

Eclipse..Revelations...Halo. - Rita Killary/NY
5/12/2014 12:23:07 PM (2408 views)
Re: Eclipse..Revelations...Halo. - Alix Ott/MI
5/12/2014 2:10:30 PM (2502 views)
Re: Eclipse..Revelations...Halo. - Rita Killary/NY
5/12/2014 7:07:26 PM (1876 views)
Re: Eclipse..Revelations...Halo. - Alix Ott/MI
5/12/2014 7:10:33 PM (1777 views)
Re: Eclipse..Revelations...Halo. - Heather St Amant/LA
5/13/2014 1:38:12 PM (1759 views)
Re: Eclipse..Revelations...Halo. - Alix Ott/MI
5/13/2014 1:43:04 PM (1629 views)
Re: Eclipse..Revelations...Halo. - Rita Killary/NY
5/13/2014 8:02:23 PM (1935 views)
Re: Eclipse..Revelations...Halo. - Alix Ott/MI
5/13/2014 8:09:00 PM (1710 views)
Did you have contract with that business? - george Hubka/MI
5/18/2014 12:12:58 AM (1847 views)
Re: Did you have contract with that business? - Rita Killary/NY
5/18/2014 1:46:37 AM (2347 views)
Re: Did you IC with "FaithfulAcres.com? - george Hubka/MI
5/18/2014 4:57:25 PM (1767 views)
Re: Did you IC with "FaithfulAcres.com? - Rita Killary/NY
5/18/2014 5:21:00 PM (1762 views)
Re: Did you IC with "FaithfulAcres.com? - denise davenport/NY
5/19/2014 6:54:19 AM (1656 views)
Re: Did you IC with "FaithfulAcres.com? - Rita Killary/NY
5/19/2014 7:50:33 PM (1800 views)
No business with farm, no lien I would guess, Robert ??? - george Hubka/MI
5/19/2014 11:08:25 AM (1657 views)
If you call either #- disconnected...Halo. - george Hubka/MI
5/18/2014 12:11:12 AM (2106 views)

All American Abstracts, LLC - Smitty Strickland/SC
5/11/2014 3:50:44 PM (2775 views)
Re: All American Abstracts, LLC - Smitty Strickland/SC
5/12/2014 5:16:03 PM (1989 views)
Re: All American Abstracts, LLC - Heather St Amant/LA
5/13/2014 1:43:28 PM (1826 views)
Re: All American Abstracts, LLC - Smitty Strickland/SC
5/13/2014 1:53:28 PM (1827 views)
Re: All American Abstracts, LLC - Heather St Amant/LA
5/13/2014 1:57:33 PM (1792 views)

ELTG - going out of business - Jason Knowles/AL
5/9/2014 5:06:01 PM (1631 views)

Eagle Title Does Not Pay Abstractors - Janet Angi/MI
5/5/2014 4:28:00 PM (1738 views)

ABSTRAX LLC NOT PAYING! - Sharon Yahraes/ID
5/5/2014 9:17:45 AM (2575 views)
Re: ABSTRAX LLC NOT PAYING! - Shona Dunning/WY
5/5/2014 11:09:11 AM (2220 views)
Re: ABSTRAX LLC NOT PAYING! - Shona Dunning/WY
5/5/2014 11:36:41 AM (2441 views)
Re: ABSTRAX LLC NOT PAYING! - Jason Knowles/AL
5/5/2014 2:36:25 PM (2075 views)
Re: ABSTRAX LLC NOT PAYING! - Nils Nelson/ME
5/5/2014 8:02:09 PM (2030 views)
Re: ABSTRAX LLC NOT PAYING! - Jason Knowles/AL
5/6/2014 2:41:20 PM (2499 views)
Re: ABSTRAX LLC NOT PAYING! - Nils Nelson/ME
5/6/2014 4:12:46 PM (2006 views)
Re: ABSTRAX LLC NOT PAYING! - Robert Franco/OH
5/7/2014 10:42:29 AM (1974 views)
Re: ABSTRAX LLC NOT PAYING! - Sharon Yahraes/ID
5/7/2014 11:36:00 AM (2017 views)

Phoenix Documets - David Bay/FL
5/5/2014 3:02:59 AM (2406 views)
Re: Phoenix Documets - Kurt deVries/FL
5/5/2014 10:12:27 AM (1978 views)
Re: Phoenix Documets - Rita Killary/NY
5/5/2014 11:35:03 AM (1861 views)
Re: Phoenix Documets - Kurt deVries/FL
5/5/2014 11:49:28 AM (1734 views)
Re: Phoenix Documets - David Bay/FL
5/12/2014 2:21:15 AM (1660 views)
Re: Phoenix Documets - Kurt deVries/FL
5/12/2014 10:36:19 AM (1535 views)

Global Data Source Titleprep - Richard Primmer/RI
5/3/2014 9:16:16 AM (3127 views)
Re: Global Data Source Titleprep - Andrew Veliuona/MD
5/5/2014 8:27:01 AM (2118 views)

Premier Abstracting Services, LLC not paying - Nathan Miller/KY
5/1/2014 12:24:34 PM (2843 views)
Re: Premier Abstracting Services, LLC not paying - Jason Knowles/AL
5/5/2014 2:34:44 PM (1760 views)


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