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Oakland County (MI) Clerk's Office Launches Google-powered Index to Curb Real Estate Fraud, Simplify - Kristi Lee/NE
5/30/2014 5:33:13 PM (3698 views)

[+] Evans Title (ET examining) - VIVIAN SLYKER/OH (1 reply)
5/30/2014 5:05:03 PM (2552 views)

[+] In Honor of Our Fallen Warriors - Scott Perry/PA (1 reply)
5/26/2014 4:29:42 PM (2221 views)

[+] STILL getting $25 search requests - Alix Ott/MI (7 replies)
5/22/2014 2:50:42 PM (3584 views)

[+] Question About Same Sex Domestic Partnerships - Scott Perry/PA (10 replies)
5/21/2014 11:02:08 PM (2996 views)




Looking for someone who can get me a deed out of York County Maine that goes back too far for online - Lorri Eaton/ME
5/21/2014 3:25:22 PM (1543 views)

[+] Overseas-Based Companies -- how can you tell? - Alix Ott/MI (3 replies)
5/21/2014 11:19:34 AM (2797 views)

[+] How Do You Answer Foreign Requests - David Bloys/TX (7 replies)
5/16/2014 12:01:39 PM (2530 views)

[+] NEW PRIVATE group on FaceBook for USA Abstractors and other Real Estate Professionals - Christy Lynn/SC (13 replies)
5/15/2014 7:52:20 PM (3880 views)

[-] COPIES, COPIES, COPIES - Luis Rivera/PA (16 replies)
5/15/2014 4:42:37 PM (3683 views)
Re: COPIES, COPIES, COPIES - Christy Lynn/SC
5/15/2014 7:55:00 PM (2757 views)
Re: COPIES, COPIES, COPIES - Alix Ott/MI
5/19/2014 7:32:01 AM (2524 views)
Re: COPIES, COPIES, COPIES - stephen willard/OH
5/19/2014 9:46:44 AM (2474 views)
Re: COPIES, COPIES, COPIES - Alix Ott/MI
5/19/2014 9:13:02 PM (2540 views)
Know any good lawyer in MI to do it? - george Hubka/MI
5/19/2014 11:03:29 PM (2561 views)
Re: Know any good lawyer in MI to do it? - Alix Ott/MI
5/20/2014 8:36:02 AM (2409 views)
Re: Know any good lawyer in MI to do it? - Scott Perry/PA
5/20/2014 8:59:41 AM (2409 views)
Re: COPIES, COPIES, COPIES - Robert Franco/OH
5/20/2014 10:01:04 AM (2420 views)
Re: COPIES, COPIES, COPIES - Alix Ott/MI
5/20/2014 10:48:50 AM (2404 views)

I agree with some of what you said, but not with all.  I think the disconnect is the TYPE of search.  Thinking of only a 1 owner search, with only a very few exceptions, ALL counties can have their copies printed from the computer system with a click of the button.  I personally never write up the order as I do the order unless I am able to access a system from home where I have dual monitors and can have the index/copies on one screen and my typeable write-up form on the other.

Clients can get very few copies themselves in most of Michigan.  While there are ways to obtain copies on-line (depending on county) even if you're not a regular user, it is usually a process to get it done and requires a credit card, putting in a LOT of information every time, and the like, while the abstractor will already have an account set up and/or an escrow account from which to pull.  Again, NO EXTRA TIME INVOLVED.

While it is true that some 1 owner/2 owner searches would require the pulling and copying of books, those are rare and I do not resent doing it.  AND if I do have to pull and copy, it means the "1 owner" has become a 40 year and I have asked for -- and received approval of -- a fee upgrade accordingly.  Most 40 year searches require a lot more work -- but are also being charged a lot more.  My time in copying is built into that fee.

As for "doc retrievals" that aren't really, with those clients I make it clear that if there is real work involved -- pulling old books and having to be at the courthouse to do it -- the fee goes up.  Sometimes dramatically.  

My final point is industry standard.  I have never had an abstractor complain about pulling documents for which they are being reimbursed and are part of an order.  The complaints are there when they're told NOT to take copies because it takes too long to sit there and write everything out!  I even have a couple of abstractors who will take copies -- at least 1st pages of mtgs -- simply to save time.  They know I can't reimburse them, but they'd rather pay for the copy than waste time writing something out.  I can't tell you how many times I've had to scold someone for making copies when they shouldn't have.  That is MUCH more common than the reverse!

 

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Re: COPIES, COPIES, COPIES - Robert Franco/OH
5/20/2014 11:03:44 AM (2475 views)
Re: COPIES, COPIES, COPIES - Alix Ott/MI
5/20/2014 11:26:26 AM (2519 views)
Re: COPIES, COPIES, COPIES - Joyce Obrien/PA
5/22/2014 7:31:42 AM (2381 views)
Re: COPIES, COPIES, COPIES - Fran Scheetz/PA
5/19/2014 10:53:24 AM (2453 views)
Re: COPIES, COPIES, COPIES - Smitty Strickland/SC
5/21/2014 6:00:52 PM (2766 views)
Re: COPIES, COPIES, COPIES - Deb Baker/MI
5/21/2014 11:12:58 PM (2258 views)
Re: COPIES, COPIES, COPIES - george Hubka/MI
5/21/2014 11:26:58 PM (2404 views)

[+] Client Refusing to Pay for Commercial Search - Chris Brew/OH (17 replies)
5/15/2014 12:31:19 PM (4332 views)

[+] Has Anyone Ever Heard of IliosUS Inc.? - Scott Perry/PA (5 replies)
5/15/2014 11:45:46 AM (2993 views)

[+] Mayura, Inc, - Smitty Strickland/SC (3 replies)
5/14/2014 3:24:44 PM (2666 views)

[+] Kentucky Land and Title does not pay abstractors - Jennifer Peart/OH (2 replies)
5/14/2014 2:08:58 PM (3006 views)

[+] Specific components to look for in E&O insurance - Heidi Gemeling/FL (6 replies)
5/13/2014 4:43:03 PM (2667 views)


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