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Oakland County (MI) Clerk's Office Launches Google-powered Index to Curb Real Estate Fraud, Simplify - Kristi Lee/NE
5/30/2014 5:33:13 PM (3637 views)

[+] Evans Title (ET examining) - VIVIAN SLYKER/OH (1 reply)
5/30/2014 5:05:03 PM (2464 views)

[+] In Honor of Our Fallen Warriors - Scott Perry/PA (1 reply)
5/26/2014 4:29:42 PM (2121 views)

[+] STILL getting $25 search requests - Alix Ott/MI (7 replies)
5/22/2014 2:50:42 PM (3490 views)

[+] Question About Same Sex Domestic Partnerships - Scott Perry/PA (10 replies)
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Looking for someone who can get me a deed out of York County Maine that goes back too far for online - Lorri Eaton/ME
5/21/2014 3:25:22 PM (1488 views)

[+] Overseas-Based Companies -- how can you tell? - Alix Ott/MI (3 replies)
5/21/2014 11:19:34 AM (2707 views)

[+] How Do You Answer Foreign Requests - David Bloys/TX (7 replies)
5/16/2014 12:01:39 PM (2452 views)

[+] NEW PRIVATE group on FaceBook for USA Abstractors and other Real Estate Professionals - Christy Lynn/SC (13 replies)
5/15/2014 7:52:20 PM (3775 views)

[-] COPIES, COPIES, COPIES - Luis Rivera/PA (16 replies)
5/15/2014 4:42:37 PM (3594 views)
Re: COPIES, COPIES, COPIES - Christy Lynn/SC
5/15/2014 7:55:00 PM (2507 views)
Re: COPIES, COPIES, COPIES - Alix Ott/MI
5/19/2014 7:32:01 AM (2273 views)
Re: COPIES, COPIES, COPIES - stephen willard/OH
5/19/2014 9:46:44 AM (2196 views)
Re: COPIES, COPIES, COPIES - Alix Ott/MI
5/19/2014 9:13:02 PM (2268 views)
Know any good lawyer in MI to do it? - george Hubka/MI
5/19/2014 11:03:29 PM (2306 views)
Re: Know any good lawyer in MI to do it? - Alix Ott/MI
5/20/2014 8:36:02 AM (2139 views)
Re: Know any good lawyer in MI to do it? - Scott Perry/PA
5/20/2014 8:59:41 AM (2156 views)
Re: COPIES, COPIES, COPIES - Robert Franco/OH
5/20/2014 10:01:04 AM (2167 views)
Re: COPIES, COPIES, COPIES - Alix Ott/MI
5/20/2014 10:48:50 AM (2152 views)

I agree with some of what you said, but not with all.  I think the disconnect is the TYPE of search.  Thinking of only a 1 owner search, with only a very few exceptions, ALL counties can have their copies printed from the computer system with a click of the button.  I personally never write up the order as I do the order unless I am able to access a system from home where I have dual monitors and can have the index/copies on one screen and my typeable write-up form on the other.

Clients can get very few copies themselves in most of Michigan.  While there are ways to obtain copies on-line (depending on county) even if you're not a regular user, it is usually a process to get it done and requires a credit card, putting in a LOT of information every time, and the like, while the abstractor will already have an account set up and/or an escrow account from which to pull.  Again, NO EXTRA TIME INVOLVED.

While it is true that some 1 owner/2 owner searches would require the pulling and copying of books, those are rare and I do not resent doing it.  AND if I do have to pull and copy, it means the "1 owner" has become a 40 year and I have asked for -- and received approval of -- a fee upgrade accordingly.  Most 40 year searches require a lot more work -- but are also being charged a lot more.  My time in copying is built into that fee.

As for "doc retrievals" that aren't really, with those clients I make it clear that if there is real work involved -- pulling old books and having to be at the courthouse to do it -- the fee goes up.  Sometimes dramatically.  

My final point is industry standard.  I have never had an abstractor complain about pulling documents for which they are being reimbursed and are part of an order.  The complaints are there when they're told NOT to take copies because it takes too long to sit there and write everything out!  I even have a couple of abstractors who will take copies -- at least 1st pages of mtgs -- simply to save time.  They know I can't reimburse them, but they'd rather pay for the copy than waste time writing something out.  I can't tell you how many times I've had to scold someone for making copies when they shouldn't have.  That is MUCH more common than the reverse!

 

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Re: COPIES, COPIES, COPIES - Robert Franco/OH
5/20/2014 11:03:44 AM (2206 views)
Re: COPIES, COPIES, COPIES - Alix Ott/MI
5/20/2014 11:26:26 AM (2255 views)
Re: COPIES, COPIES, COPIES - Joyce Obrien/PA
5/22/2014 7:31:42 AM (2123 views)
Re: COPIES, COPIES, COPIES - Fran Scheetz/PA
5/19/2014 10:53:24 AM (2196 views)
Re: COPIES, COPIES, COPIES - Smitty Strickland/SC
5/21/2014 6:00:52 PM (2502 views)
Re: COPIES, COPIES, COPIES - Deb Baker/MI
5/21/2014 11:12:58 PM (1997 views)
Re: COPIES, COPIES, COPIES - george Hubka/MI
5/21/2014 11:26:58 PM (2155 views)

[+] Client Refusing to Pay for Commercial Search - Chris Brew/OH (17 replies)
5/15/2014 12:31:19 PM (4251 views)

[+] Has Anyone Ever Heard of IliosUS Inc.? - Scott Perry/PA (5 replies)
5/15/2014 11:45:46 AM (2883 views)

[+] Mayura, Inc, - Smitty Strickland/SC (3 replies)
5/14/2014 3:24:44 PM (2588 views)

[+] Kentucky Land and Title does not pay abstractors - Jennifer Peart/OH (2 replies)
5/14/2014 2:08:58 PM (2922 views)

[+] Specific components to look for in E&O insurance - Heidi Gemeling/FL (6 replies)
5/13/2014 4:43:03 PM (2591 views)


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